Interview With OB Rag Poet Ernie McCray — Survivor of Jim Crow, a College BB Legend and San Diego Educator
by Brooke Binkowski / La Jolla Village News / April 21, 2026
Ernest McCray has never stopped to consider whether something is impossible. There’s only one thing he says he isn’t capable of.
“I tried to be a grown-up — for about 30 seconds,” he said, laughing.
McCray’s life began in Arizona to a hardworking, music-loving family in which he was raised mainly by his mother. It was a different country then, and Tucson was still enforcing Jim Crow-style segregation.
“I was born in 1938, to give you an idea,” said McCray. “They didn’t desegregate schools in Tucson until I was going into the 8th grade. We couldn’t eat at the white restaurants, we could only swim in the ‘colored’ swimming pool.”
He found refuge from Jim Crow in the local library. Despite the animus enforced from above, McCray knew he had a voice — and he used it.
“That’s how I make it in the world,” he said. “Through writing and being an educator and a teacher and a principal… I use my writing in school communities and working with kids and turning them on to writing.”
Above all, McCray said, he does everything he can to make the world a kinder place.

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