One in 5 Say They’re Joining the Underground Resistance
The OB Rag ran a poll for over a week recently, querying readers with What Are You Going to Do Now that Trump is President-Elect? The poll was similar to one we ran before the election in mid-September asking the same basic question.
In this poll, one hundred eleven readers responded. As we all are aware by now that our country and city are divided on Mr. Trump, the poll results reflected those divisions.
Nearly 30% of the respondents chose options that indicated their extreme opposition to Trump, whereas 21% said they “continue to celebrate”, with a quarter of those polled stating that they wish to wait and give him a chance to govern.
None said they’re moving out of the country – in contrast to our first poll, where”nearly 8% said they would move out of the country (2% to Mexico and 5.5% to Canada).”
An incredible percentage – one in five – said they would “Join the underground resistance” ; this option had 20.72% of the total, with 9.01% saying they’d “take to the streets in protest.”
25.23% of our respondents want to “Wait and give Trump a chance to govern.” Another 16.22% say, they’re either still in shock or don’t know.
Finally, 8.11% don’t believe anything will change and so chose “Nothing, as nothing will change.” This is in contrast to the first poll where 23% claimed “nothing will change.”
Here is the poll:
What are you going to do now that Trump is president-elect?
- Move out of the country. 0% – ( 0 votes )
- Take to the streets in protest. 9.01% – ( 10 votes )
- Join the underground resistance. 20.72% – ( 23 votes )
- Nothing, as nothing will change. 8.11% – ( 9 votes )
- Wait and give Trump a chance to govern. 25.23% – ( 28 votes )
- Continue to celebrate. 20.72% – ( 23 votes )
- Still in shock or don’t know. 16.22% – ( 18 votes )Poll total votes: 111
As with all of our polls, it was a voluntary, unscientific, readers’ poll. A take on where our readers stand.
Here is how we reported the results of the September poll:
The answers ranged from nearly a third saying they would be celebrating Trump’s election (31%), contrasted with nearly 10% who said they would be joining the “underground resistance”, and where 23% claimed “nothing will change.”
About 38% of those who answered chose options in the poll that expressed some level of negative impact with Trump’s election. Nearly 8% said they would move out of the country (2% to Mexico and 5.5% to Canada).
Another 14% would be mobilized politically against Trump – with an astounding 9.7% of the overall respondents agreeing to the option, “Joint the underground resistance.”
Almost 5% said they would “take to the streets”, meaning demonstrating and protesting.
Nearly 16% agreed with the choice, “go into a deep debilitating depression.”
Finally, over 8% said they would “stay in denial.”
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Or we could follow Bernie’s admonitions and work locally to elect real progressive Democrats to positions of power…..for example, let’s replace Republican-lite Scott Peters in Congress with someone who will NOT be dependent on corporate money. Face it, the party needs an overhaul, having just re-elected Nancy Pelosi to lead the House despite all (there was a decent challenge from Ryan of Ohio, who garnered 63 votes to Pelosi’s 100 plus).
Personally, I went out and bought an American car. If we want America to be great again, we have to buy American. That is what brings jobs home.
Is it acceptable to buy a Beamer made in South Carolina?
No, profits go to BMW parent co in Germany.
American taxpayers lost $11.2 billion of the $50 billion General Motors bailout.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/general-motors-debt/
I think that subjects like this get very confusing unless that is your full time job ferreting out this information. And what happened in the past doesn’t have to be what will happen now. My point was that we all need to buy American. Once manufacturers realize the demand for American made products, which I realize will cost each of us more money, they will begin to produce more American made products.
The United Auto Workers had 1.5 million workers in 1979. Today, 408,000. More robots, fewer human workers. The ship has sailed. Stopgap efforts such as the Carrier intervention are dubious at best.
I agree that workers are down but if we all acted like “the ship has sailed”, then what the hell do you plan on doing with middle America? I think everyone wants good things for America now it’s time for us to let the powers that be do what they can to get there. Ross Perot during one of his famous chart speeches said, “That giiiiaaant sucking sound is our jobs going overseas.” That’s the last vote that I felt good about.
Yes, we all want good things for America. Middle America would benefit from better education and healthcare. Giving tax relief to the 1% won’ t help middle America.
His presidency doesn’t hinge upon a tax plan that neither you nor I know about. We have heard things from various sources but until a complete package is announced, I’ll withhold comment. BTW coastal America would benefit from better education and healthcare so what’s your point?
I know about the tax proposal Trump released during the campaign. Trump doesn’t seem to know what he’s thinking or going to tweet from one moment to the next.
It looks like Trump’s tax plan is converging towards lower rates for the top incomes but fewer and reduced deductions. While some upper taxpayers will pay less, some will pay more. The money coming into the government might not change much. (This tax neutral portion of a plan will get votes from the budget hawks.) While middle income taxpayers may not benefit dramatically by changes in the rates they should benefit dramatically from a child care program that Trump talked about early in the campaign. If the child care program is a credit (rather than a deduction) and if it is applied to the earned income credit it will be a big gain for middle income, lower income, single parent, and working poor….
If the Democrats were smart, they would work and DEAL with Trump on child care relief…….
If you actually believe any of what you wrote will happen that way, then the only response is “Wait and see. Wait and see.”
First, what the hell does that mean, “Make America great again?” When was it great and when did it stop being great? That was a ridiculous campaign slogan. Second, just buying an American car won’t bring any jobs back home, those cars are already made here. If the American car companies want to be greater again, they need to make cars that can compete with Toyotas and Hondas. As for anything else made in America, it is nearly impossible to find things made here because of the out-sourcing that has gone on for years. What we need is to have companies like Nike bring their manufacturing back from Indonesia and be satisfied with a reasonable profit not the obscene profits they get by charging the high prices they do for shoes that cost a mere fraction of that to make. Good luck.
Most American cars are a combination of parts and facilities from around the globe. We need to have them made in America again. As to competing with Toyota and Honda, we’re there. Read Consumer Reports. I think you get a lot more bang for the buck in domestic cars. Are they all great, no. Do your homework.
And if you don’t like the Make America Great Again slogan, perhaps Stronger Together was better?
So, if American cars are made as you describe, why is buying “American” important? Lots of foreign cars are assembled here so why not buy them? As for American cars being as good as Toyotas and Hondas, they have made great improvements but they aren’t there yet. I don’t need any homework.
I don’t care for slogans of any kind because slogans are too simple. I don’t understand either one. You didn’t answer my question, when was America great and when did it stop being great? Stronger Together? What does that mean? Stronger for what?
Make America Great Again was a slogan. My justifying it won’t change your mind one iota. Maybe you don’t understand the concept of Made in America. That means that the current regulations allow for outsourcing of parts used in the construction of vehicles in the US. Oh, what’s the use. You don’t want to know anything, you have your notions of the world and so do I. Arguing on this forum is futile since if the editorial board doesn’t like a comment, they simply say that it is “Under editorial review” until the thread simply goes away.
No, no, no, don’t just go away. Answer the question. When was America great and when did it stop being great? I’ve asked anyone who says this slogan the same questions and I never get an answer. Why? Because the slogan makes no sense, it’s pablum for people who don’t want to think. You don’t strike me as one of those so when was America great and when it stop being great?
I’m done, you can’t argue with a liberal who is only interested in words that end with ism, ist, or the like. Your education and skillset has destroyed my conservative beliefs, America has never been great, just because we SAVED THE WORLD means nothing. What means everything is that we live in a world where Castro is held in high regard, the best presidential candidates America can muster are HRC and DT and common sense is relegated to a mere afterthought.
First of all, who is arguing? I just asked you to explain the slogan you used in your original post. Asking for an explanation is not arguing.
Second, who said I was a liberal?
Third, Castro is not held in high regard by the world, not at all.
Finally, I’m guessing by your comment about us having SAVED THE WORLD that the answer to my questions is that America was great during WWII. I think lots of people might dispute that like the black Americans who came home from that war and the women who were chased out of a working life among a few. But, if that was when we were great, when did we stop being great?
“we SAVED THE WORLD…” Doesn’t “we” include the Soviet Union, the UK, and the Chinese? (among many other nations)
Blasphemy!
“Your education and skillset has destroyed my conservative beliefs,”
OMG that wins the award for most absurd yer funny comment of the week.
“What means everything is that we live in a world where Castro is held in high regard, ”
He is? That’s news to me.
“the best presidential candidates America can muster are HRC and DT ”
Now that’s something everyone agrees on.
Have no idea what the underground is. Any clues? Definitely feel as if with the proper leadership, dedication and hard work that the country can get back on track. It’s a lot of work just keeping up with current events as the lead parts are played by the those in the very top echelons of the doubletalk game. Dr.* Trump is exceptionally charismatic, Cheshire cattish and certainly chock full of surprises. So far everything he has said has been nothing but bait ‘n switch. It seems as if the people who will be most adversely affected are those that voted him into office. It’s the creepy hardcore Conservatives, who at first glance seem to be raking in all the swag. Somehow I’m with Jill Stein.
* For an honorary Phd. from Trump University
underground is the people who pretend like they’re going to do something but they’ll just complain and pretend like they’re making a difference. They’ll mainly post anti trump comments on the internet from their ipad/ iphone, while drinking starbucks from a disposable cup. They’ll tell people they’re doing something when in reality they’re just feeding the machine.
cc. That’s somewhat the hazy feeling I visualized. I also feel that the uncover boys might even set up some underground organizations just to get some nice lists of dissidents. I read somewhere that the good guys set up a chop shop and over a year’s time netted a whole buncha bad guys. They’d certainly infiltrate any anti-Republican organizations. There’s got to be someway to do that within the establishment. It’s complicated. But at least ole Bait ‘n Switch is getting the ball rolling. A Chug a chug a chug, … just like a freight train.
Just for starters – think of the Underground Railroad during slavery and the Civil War; think of the underground of Americans who went to Canada to avoid the Vietnam war; think of the underground during the Nazi occupations of France, Holland, etc.
Frank,
During the Thirties there was an organization called America First, full of very well meaning people, which was formed to keep the U. S. out of the War and imploded after the attack on Pearl Harbor. It was preceded by the German American Bund, which seems to enjoying a new popularity with the recent Election. The Trans-Oceanic B-36 was developed after the Nazis began serious work on a Trans Atlantic bomber hoping to blitz New York, Washington, &tc.. the B-36, (“The Big Stick”)-, was conceived at Convair ‘s Pacific Highway’s plant just over the hill and moved to Fort Worth because it needed a bigger air field than Lindbergh Field. As I recall part the Underground Railroad led to Canada. All these groups were fairly well organized. Churches played an important role in North American diaspora; and British and American Intelligence aided abetted the French Resistance. Organization might just be the key.
Yup, thanks Cholly for the good history.
Organization driven by compassionate policy.
…Meanwhile back in North Dakota which is still part of the United States (last time I checked) Obama, current US President, continues to do nothing to stop police from assaulting Native American and US Veteran water protectors and DAPL.
With Democrats like Clintons and Obama…Hell, who needs Republicans ?! Hillary could have come out against TPP and DAPL but she was too busy giving $300,000/hr speeches to Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street bankers to care about issues important to Americans such as $15/hr minimum wage.
S
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