Visual Analysis of a Cross-Walk at Newport and Abbott

by on November 10, 2014 · 8 comments

in Environment, Ocean Beach

This article was originally posted on Nov. 10, 2014.

At their last meeting, the OB Planning Board held a discussion about a cross-walk at the intersection of Newport Avenue and Abbott Street.

John Ambert, Vice-chair of the board, gave a power-point presentation of an analysis having a cross-walk at that busy center of the beach.

Here, without significant comment or narration, is Ambert’s self-explanatory visual presentation:

First up – a traffic flow analysis. Red lines represent pedestrian movement.

OB Crosswalk Analysis JA 03

 Option number 1 – a simple ladder.

OB Crosswalk Analysis JA 04Option 2 – lights and signage. Remember these are just suggestions and options, not even recommendations.

OB Crosswalk Analysis JA 05Third option: a walkabout with two ladders. Communities up in LA are experimenting with similar types of cross-walks.

OB Crosswalk Analysis JA 06Fourth option with a  mural – (image is just a place-setter, not a recommendation). Funds for the mural would have to be raised in OB. And OB would have to determine the mural. Now, this idea is also what folks in Pacific Beach did with one of their intersections.

OB Crosswalk Analysis JA 07This is what they painted in their intersection.

Here’s a fun alternative – paint the cross-walk in 3D paint.

Again, no decisions have been made. The Board is going to take a month to think about the project and begin to collect mural ideas.

Hey, let’s have an OB mural contest!

{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

Frank Gormlie November 10, 2014 at 11:23 am

Thank you, John Ambert, for pushing the community into a real discussion with visuals.


Debbie November 10, 2014 at 5:55 pm

Thanks for info.

Like the walkabout with two lighted crosswalks. The walkabout with a design of stones and pavers since paint will only fade, chip and get dirty.


Kirk November 11, 2014 at 8:33 am

Thank you Mr Ambert for all the talented efforts.

Have there been pedestrian safety issues there? I’ve never felt nervous crossing at that corner. Do other people feel unsafe? Is this a solution looking for a problem?


good discussion November 11, 2014 at 11:55 am

Thanks for all the hard work.

I’ll definitely be at the next planning board meeting and I look forward to hearing a debate about stop lights or stop signs or murals or whatever it is the community decides upon.


PL Local June 15, 2016 at 2:54 pm

Maybe we can get a Graffiti Artist to paint the mural.


Nicole Ueno August 30, 2018 at 1:01 pm

Hey Frank – whatever happened with this idea? Still needed, IMHO.


Frank Gormlie August 30, 2018 at 5:57 pm

You’re right. The individuals who championed this have moved on, but it doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea.


Dr. Jack Hammer November 28, 2019 at 7:36 am

3D paint would be sweet. There needs to be something, just to reign in the ‘chaos’. Most folks seem to go from the sidewalk on Newport across Abbot, so I am going with option 1. Lights are a bit unnecessary, as traffic is already going pretty slow through there (unlike Sunset Cliffs Blvd.)


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