5 thoughts on “May Day — Unions March & Rally –Thursday, May 1”
Hope somebody covers this. I will be out of town. Not sure what taking over the streets means with Toad catering to the unions despite my past union affiliation.
If a modern politician didn’t take in the views and support from labor unions, she or he would not survive. Unions are here to stay, despite some being corrupt (like everything else). The voices of working people are needed and for many, their union says it for them. Many unions have internal democratic means. They elect the leadership in many instances, and the leadership forms and creates the staff which serve union members on a daily basis. The problem with San Diego in particular is that some unions of the building trades and service trades hitch their wagons to developers and whomever can bring jobs, either public or private.
Over the years, I’ve been in several unions – some were good and some not so good. When I worked at Convair for instance, my union ensured I was getting the correct pay for the job I had, despite management’s avoidance of the issue. Then I worked via a Labors Union in Colorado. The union hall got me a job but the only time I saw a union rep was when he came out to berate me for not keeping my dues current.
Historically, it was the unions that forced the establishment to allow only 40 hours a week and safer work places. There was a huge battle just to get unions. And on and on. Gotta see the different sides of an issue.
Are you admonishing me? I definitely know the benefits of unions over historical times and understand their effects on workers. I in general support. Today’s building unions HERE IN SAN DIEGO seem to want to cater to the builders as opposed to other places more entrenched like NorCal or Long Beach for example. When Kaiser built on the 15, I thought it was bullshit to have a controlled gate to prevent open solicitation for work, as what is allowed to members, but in this case was a developer deal. Unfair to the membership. I’m a 30+ yr piledriver/ carpenter member FWIW. A main basic problem to me is the blank check support the union will have to building anything, anywhere, as long as it supports working members, without any ramifications to the area affected, what so ever. That is irresponsible.
Okay, good to know. Sometimes it’s too easy for media, pundits to slip into the historic bias against unions that conservatives, GOP, the right, have had over the decades and even centuries.
As an addendum to a previous comment not yet accepted until moderation, the unions will approve anything as it relates to work, money and membership. There is no grey area, or thought out ramifications, to what their project approval means to a particular area. It’s a zero sum game.
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Hope somebody covers this. I will be out of town. Not sure what taking over the streets means with Toad catering to the unions despite my past union affiliation.
If a modern politician didn’t take in the views and support from labor unions, she or he would not survive. Unions are here to stay, despite some being corrupt (like everything else). The voices of working people are needed and for many, their union says it for them. Many unions have internal democratic means. They elect the leadership in many instances, and the leadership forms and creates the staff which serve union members on a daily basis. The problem with San Diego in particular is that some unions of the building trades and service trades hitch their wagons to developers and whomever can bring jobs, either public or private.
Over the years, I’ve been in several unions – some were good and some not so good. When I worked at Convair for instance, my union ensured I was getting the correct pay for the job I had, despite management’s avoidance of the issue. Then I worked via a Labors Union in Colorado. The union hall got me a job but the only time I saw a union rep was when he came out to berate me for not keeping my dues current.
Historically, it was the unions that forced the establishment to allow only 40 hours a week and safer work places. There was a huge battle just to get unions. And on and on. Gotta see the different sides of an issue.
Are you admonishing me? I definitely know the benefits of unions over historical times and understand their effects on workers. I in general support. Today’s building unions HERE IN SAN DIEGO seem to want to cater to the builders as opposed to other places more entrenched like NorCal or Long Beach for example. When Kaiser built on the 15, I thought it was bullshit to have a controlled gate to prevent open solicitation for work, as what is allowed to members, but in this case was a developer deal. Unfair to the membership. I’m a 30+ yr piledriver/ carpenter member FWIW. A main basic problem to me is the blank check support the union will have to building anything, anywhere, as long as it supports working members, without any ramifications to the area affected, what so ever. That is irresponsible.
Okay, good to know. Sometimes it’s too easy for media, pundits to slip into the historic bias against unions that conservatives, GOP, the right, have had over the decades and even centuries.
As an addendum to a previous comment not yet accepted until moderation, the unions will approve anything as it relates to work, money and membership. There is no grey area, or thought out ramifications, to what their project approval means to a particular area. It’s a zero sum game.