‘If Musk Did This Anywhere Else, We’d Call It a Coup’

By Josh Meyer / USA TODAY / Tue, February 4, 2025

Democratic lawmakers and government watchdog groups are pledging to fight back against Elon Musk’s takeover of the federal government’s payment system, which they say may be the biggest privacy and security breach in American history.

“If we were watching this happen in Venezuela or Malawi and we saw a billionaire seize the money supply and the checkbook of the government, we would call it a coup,” said Lindsay Owens, executive director of the Groundwork Collaborative economic policy group and a former Senate senior economic policy advisor.

Musk, the world’s wealthiest person, is an unpaid advisor to President Donald Trump. Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has been tasked with finding ways to cut spending and regulations.

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., in an exclusive interview with USA TODAY, said that Musk sent young DOGE computer programmers into the Treasury Department’s headquarters, where they allegedly strong-armed civil service workers to gain full access to the system that cuts checks for all congressionally authorized government payments.

Reports emerged over the weekend that Musk’s DOGE operatives were at Treasury, going through the payment systems and that they had effectively ousted the top civil servant at the Treasury Department, David Lebryk, after he refused to grant access to Musk’s emissaries.

And they ultimately pressured Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to “turn the keys over” to them, said Wyden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee.

The payment system, traditionally managed by career civil servants and non-political staff, handles trillions of dollars annually, including Social Security and Medicare benefits and tax credits.

Wyden said his staff found out about the events on Friday and independently confirmed them through whistleblowers and internal sources.

By Monday, the Senate staffers had concluded that the DOGE workers spent the weekend accessing the Treasury Department’s massive federal payment system, Wyden said, including “the personal information of hundreds of millions of Americans, bank accounts and tax data, Social Security numbers and home addresses.”

“We got on it, and what is clear now is that unqualified and unaccountable people have seized control of the flow of taxpayer funds and a trove of very sensitive data, and they are seizing the tools they need for a coup,” Wyden said.

‘Treasury officials are breaking the law every hour,’ Musk says
Musk appeared to condone the activities of DOGE personnel working at Treasury in a Feb. 2 post on X, the social media platform he owns.

“Career Treasury officials are breaking the law every hour of every day by approving payments that are fraudulent or do not match the funding laws passed by Congress,” Musk posted. “This needs to stop NOW!”

Musk later posted information about some of the DOGE personnel at Treasury, and others going through similar databases at the Office of Personnel Management, or OPM. He said they have degrees from Stanford, UC Berkeley, & MIT and work experience at Google and companies he owns like Tesla and SpaceX.

“Time to confess: Media reports saying that @DOGE has some of world’s best software engineers are in fact true,” Musk wrote in a Monday afternoon @X post.

Musk also defended his team’s actions at Treasury by saying, “The @DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups. They literally never denied a payment in their entire career. Not even once.”

A Democratic staff official on the Senate Finance Committee told USA TODAY on Monday that Musk’s comment suggests a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. The system, he said on the condition of anonymity, is basically the U.S. government’s checkbook for payments already approved by Congress. To find waste, fraud and abuse, the staffer said, Musk would need to go to the agencies that are actually spending the money.

The White House did not return an email seeking comment. But on Monday in the Oval Office, Trump told reporters he agrees with the steps Musk has taken “for the most part.”

“Elon can’t do and won’t do anything without our approval, and we’ll give him the approval where appropriate. Where it’s not appropriate we won’t,” Trump said. “But he reports in and he, it’s something that he feels very strongly about, and I’m impressed because he’s running, obviously, a big company.”

On @X, Musk also said that, the “@DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups. They literally never denied a payment in their entire career. Not even once.”

Tesla CEO and X owner Elon Musk addresses a stadium audience in Washington, D.C., on the Inauguration Day of Donald Trump’s second presidential term.
An extraordinary breach by the ‘Musk hatchet brigade’
Wyden said the breach poses an extraordinary and unprecedented threat to U.S. national security given the nature of the information contained in the Treasury system that is now in the hands of Musk’s staffers.

“The Musk hatchet brigade has infiltrated a gold mine of data that every foreign spy and corrupt actor would love to see,” Wyden said. “It is a prescription for nightmares.”

After news broke that Musk’s DOGE crew was at the Treasury department, some journalists and open source investigators posted identifications ? and photos ? of some of them deployed to the Treasury, OPM and elsewhere. WIRED magazine reported that the young men were engineers between 19 and 24 years old, most linked to Musk’s companies, with one purportedly still in college.

Wyden and others interviewed by USA TODAY Monday said the DOGE staffers had not been given congressionally authorized jobs, hadn’t passed the required background checks or obtained security clearances needed to access at least some of the material.

Wyden said he was especially concerned about the fact that the Treasury data – and personnel data at OPM – contain highly sensitive information about government workers and programs and payments to government contractors, including those that compete with Musk-owned companies for billions of dollars in government contracts.

What’s more, Wyden said, Musk’s vast business interests in China, including a factory that builds many of his Tesla electric vehicles, could cause even more problems.

Faced with mounting outrage among Democrats, Wyden and other senators held a news conference Monday afternoon where they called on Republicans to join them in fighting for Musk’s DOGE personnel to relinquish the reins of the Treasury payment system.

If Bessent doesn’t revoke DOGE’s access, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. said, Democrats will introduce legislation to “stop unlawful meddling in the Treasury Department’s payment systems.”

Both Wyden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., also sent separate letters to Bessent over the weekend demanding answers.

Wyden’s letter posed several questions to the Treasury Department, including whether officials linked to Musk or DOGE have requested or been granted access to Treasury’s payment systems, and if they have, under what legal authority and for what purpose. The senator also inquired about any vetting processes conducted by the Treasury Department regarding potential conflicts of interest due to Musk’s business operations in China.

“The press has previously reported that Musk was denied a high-level clearance to access the government’s most sensitive secrets,” Wyden wrote in his letter to Bessent. “I am concerned that Musk’s enormous business operation in China … endangers U.S. cybersecurity and creates conflicts of interest that make his access to these systems a national security risk.”

Warren told Bessent she was “alarmed by reports” of the “extraordinarily dangerous” DOGE takeover at Treasury, including allowing Lebryk – who was acting Treasury secretary before Bessent’s confirmation – to be pushed aside. Lebryk, Warren noted, is “the key official responsible for managing the extraordinary measures the Department of the Treasury is taking to avoid a default on U.S. debt.”

Thus his sidelining, “risking missteps that could result in a global financial meltdown that costs trillions of dollars and millions of jobs,” Warren wrote.

Most congressional Republicans have not yet commented on the issue, but in response to Warren’s complaints, Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, replied on @X, “I disagree with your characterization of the facts. Other than that, this is exactly what we voted for. Who’s with me on this?”

‘Seizing critical systems’ and ‘rooting through them’
The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), a legal and constitutional watchdog group, was marshaling legal resources to fight DOGE’s accessing of the Treasury and OPM systems on Monday.

“We haven’t made any decisions yet, but we’re looking at many pieces of this, and what the legal implications are,” John Davisson, EPIC’s director of litigation, told USA TODAY.

“This is an extremely irregular, unprecedented act of seizing critical systems and handing it over to people who, to a certainty, lack the training or have no prior familiarity with systems, are not charged with their safe keeping, and are really just rooting through them, identifying data points and combining data sets, it appears, for their own ends of dismantling the federal government,” Davisson said.

Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois called on congressional lawmakers to go to Treasury headquarters around the corner from the White House and find out for themselves what, exactly, is going on inside.

“Send members of Congress to go into the building and investigate what these people are doing,” Kinzinger said in a video posted on @X.  “Dare them to stop you because they can’t.”

Later Monday, two major federal employee unions filed seeking to block DOGE access to Treasury Department payment database.

“The scale of the intrusion into individuals’ privacy is massive and unprecedented,” the lawsuit by the American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO and Service Employees International Union, AFL-CIO, said. “Secretary Bessent’s action granting DOGE-affiliated individuals full, continuous, and ongoing access to that information … means that retirees, taxpayers, federal employees, companies, and other individuals from all walks of life have no assurance that their information will receive the protection that federal law affords.”

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13 thoughts on “‘If Musk Did This Anywhere Else, We’d Call It a Coup’

  1. dems are being entirely useless here. “if bessent doesn’t revoke access, we’ll introduce legislation”. schumer is swinging at a pitch from last inning. wake up chuck!

      1. Gee Vern, the Constitution is also from centuries past — I guess it’s time to delete it. But, yeah, I get it — seems most Dems are not rising to the dangerous occasion.

      1. Dems currently can’t figure out how to resist, but more importantly, how to defeat the tRump-train. Dems had since 2015 to defeat the phat blob but in all these years, with all their college-educated thinkers, creatives and though “leaders”, could never muster the ideas, strength or wisdom to undermine the idiocy of Phat Nixon.
        Remember, dems suffer from the cult of personality as well. Pelosi, Schumer, et al.

        I think Noam Chomsky would agree.

          1. The Dems, specifically Harris, DID beat Trump according to investigative reporter Palast who laid out how the GOP-MAGA cheated quite succinctly, but it seems that Dem ‘leadership’ had no idea how to stop the GOP from purging over three million Harris votes though they were sure warned that it was already happening from a number of sources FOR YEARS. It’s been ongoing, relentless, from gerrymandering districts to denying signatures to this time having 100,000 Nazis at the polls to confront and challenge/intimidate, to never counting ‘provisional ballots’ to calling in bomb threats in Dem-voting district while not putting enough machines in them for the expected numbers.

            This was a well-orchestrated coup funded by right wing billionaires like the Nazi Musk.

            I remember exactly what my WWII vet grandfathers said one has to do about Nazis. They didn’t make any attempt to soften their language. Maybe somehow that historical knowledge will survive this utter mad predicament we find ourselves in and be applicable to those that come after us.

            But then French aristocracy never saw the guillotines coming, either, did they?

            sealintheSelkirks

            1. New story on CNN this morning on how MAGA Mussolini is moving to dismantle the FBI unit that tracks and stops international voter interference. Go figure. We’re in for a very, very long road ahead.

            2. Seal, I get what your saying, but the dems have no real way to combat the fat pile of orange ooze, especially if they cling to the Pelosi & Schumer types.

              If the donhole says a red sign is black, the MAGAts will unquestionably believe that it absolutely is black (even though they reckon its red)…

              The notion, “if they go low, we go high” (the dems smug tagline) was so absurd when I heard it , especially after witnessing so many brainwashed MAGA lemmings jumping to their intellectual deaths for Cadet Bonespurs. Effin-A!

              I believe I understand what you say the WWII vets may have thought about dealing the nazis… probably not too wrong.

  2. WIRED Magazine: Background Check on the 19-yo Doggy Boy at OPM: Russian, Chinese, Nazi Hacker Connections

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/6/2301853/-WIRED-Background-Check-on-the-19-yo-Doggy-Boy-at-OPM-Russian-Chinese-Nazi-Hacker-Connections
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    Yes this is really happening

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/5/2301611/-Yes-this-is-really-happening
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    Elon Musk’s DOGE is feeding sensitive federal data into AI to target cuts

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elon-musk-s-doge-is-feeding-sensitive-federal-data-into-ai-to-target-cuts/ar-AA1yxMHV
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    Two from the comment section:

    And the maga and christian nationalists (with the racist/mysogynist/anti-trans/LGBTQ allies) voting public is all fine with it. And the apathetic, uninformed and plain stupid are fine with it. They will sit back and watch because they have not a clue as to what is going on, or what it might mean for them in the near future. And none of these will care until it is personal pain they are feeling every single day, day after day. Even intelligent folks trying to ferret out every terrible action being taken by the current admin., and elected members of Congress and the Senate cannot keep up. I will do what I can to resist, and that includes giving up my own old life if it would make a difference for our side, but the fact that there is no more rule of law to constrain or deter these folks leads me to believe we are entirely done for-and by “we” I mean our democracy and everyone in it that is not uber-wealthy and can protect themselves, or can rely on protection from the oligarchy.
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    Trump has been a test of national security since 2015 and the courts, press, Congress, Justice Department, and voters have all so far failed.
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    sealintheSelkirks

  3. Well, it wasn’t called a coup last time the US held a Political Purge…but it SHOULD have been. History as my parents knew it the year before I was born:

    What Happened the Last Time a President Purged the Bureaucracy
    The impact can linger not just for years but decades.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/02/06/government-workers-purge-1950s-communism-00202336
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    We’ve been down this road before, and it was Republicans last time, too. Purges started by Truman led to Eisenhower that put in Dulles as Sec of State.

    Remember that Alan Dulles headed up the CIA before being fired by JFK…and then was brought back in to ‘investigate’ his assassination by a ‘lone gunman.’ Hmmm, how coincidental especially with the more recent releases of photos and redacted info that pretty much proved that it wasn’t Oswald but multiple shooters hidden in the bushes with the clouds of gunsmoke.

    So same crap different decade same political party. Why am I not surprised?

    sealintheSelkirks

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