Big, White Stucco Boxes Coming to Abbott and Muir in North Ocean Beach

by on July 26, 2023 · 13 comments

in Ocean Beach

Tracy Dezenzo, a member of the OB Planning Board, grabbed a shot of the banner showing what the new units on Abbott and Muir will look like. Her reaction was “ewwwwww!”

Tracy observed:

This is an example of developers not giving a rats booty about the character of the neighborhood. It’s a big, white, stucco box that is going to stick out like a sore thumb and loom over the properties next to it.

If the developers would have come before the Ocean Beach Planning Board, I would have had a lot to say about this as a representative for District 1, but they completely ignored the Planning Board and just built baby built.

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t think this building is ugly. Modern, yes but ugly, nope. I’m sure it would look amazing in La Jolla or Pacific Beach but it’s completely wrong for north OB.

I’m also grateful that they didn’t build all the way up to the edges of the property, that they included a single car garage for each of the units, and I’m thankful they are not building ten plus units with zero off street parking on this lot-which is starting to happen in our town and we could expect to see a lot more of if SB10 is sanctioned by our elected officials.

Oh and lastly, anyone think this building looks familiar? Abbott and Saratoga has one just like it and all those units have been converted into a short term rentals. I’m betting these will go in the same direction, but that’s a rant for another time.


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kh July 26, 2023 at 12:46 pm

Well I think it’s hideous. And it’s a missed opportunity.

This is 3 lots at 7500sf total. The base zoning allows 4 units. It would’ve been easy to provide that plus some lower rent ADUs WITH parking on site. This could’v’e been (6) 2-bedroom units with some breathing room between them.

Instead it looks like 3 very large and very expensive homes, that will probably get purchased by investors and get listed on Airbnb. I can already hear the zonies dragging a keg up to the roof deck.


Gravitas July 26, 2023 at 2:38 pm

NO on SB 10….!!


kh July 26, 2023 at 10:04 pm

This project has nothing to do with SB10. If anything it’s quite the opposite. Large expensive single family homes with parking.


Kathleen Blavatt July 26, 2023 at 3:16 pm

These look a lot like the Saratoga Air B&Bs!


Vern July 26, 2023 at 3:28 pm

Or just like those white boxes at the 4500 block of both Niagara & Newport. Trees cut down, plant life removed, plenty of concrete poured. And those, undoubtedly, have “affordable” scrawled all over them!


Denise July 26, 2023 at 3:44 pm

They look like pacific beach and La Jolla because that is what OB is turning into.

On that note, part of PB are starting to look and feel like Newport Beach.


Tracy Fish July 26, 2023 at 5:51 pm

I HATE what’s happening to Ocean Beach with all these big condos, apartments & Air B&Bs going up! I’ve written many letters, I’ve put signs in my front yard “NO SB10!” What else can we do to stop them from changing what we all love about O.B? Soon there won’t be any of the original, colorful little cottages left that make O.B so special. And in they’re place will be condos that hide most of the beautiful coastal view we pay tremendous taxes to see!! Grrr!


Vern July 26, 2023 at 7:36 pm

Please attend!
JULY 29th, 2023
We support a sustainable, walkable, community-driven approach to housing and planning. SB 10 is yet another poorly-conceived density bomb for single-family neighborhoods and an obstacle to these goals.

If passed by our City Council, SB 10 will allow up to 30,000 square foot, three-story apartment buildings a mile (or more) away from transit and deep in the heart of residential neighborhoods. SB 10 provides little to no affordability or onsite parking. Worse yet, it’s irreversible.

Join San Diegans For Responsible Growth and residents from communities all across San Diego in a rally for responsible growth and against SB 10.

WHEN: Saturday, July 29th, 11 A.M. to 1 P.M.
WHERE: Along Friars Road at Ulric Street
(Northeast of Fashion Valley Mall)


Dr. Jack Hammer July 27, 2023 at 7:14 am

Hasta luego Ocean Beach… it was nice knowing you.

Unfortunately, OB is not the only small beach town ruined by outta town developers…


LittleKumeyaayBoy August 3, 2023 at 2:06 pm

Curious, why didn’t they have to get approval from the OB planning board?


Chris August 3, 2023 at 3:44 pm

Pretty much all planning boards throughout the city have been gutted of any power they had. Even if that weren’t the case, well heeled and crafty developers can always find a way to bypass CPGs.


LittleKumeyaayBoy August 3, 2023 at 4:21 pm

I must admit that when these white stucco boxes are done going in, it will surely be an upgrade to the dirt lot that’s been chest high with weeds there for years. And it seems that from the listing on Zillow that each of these three units will have a 2 car garage, so no real impact to parking in my neighborhood. Add in the 2.5 million dollar price tag for comps and us property owners that are a block away and that have watched our home values go from 7,00o dollars when our grandparents first bought to now 2 million plus–I don’t see a downside. Progress is happening. There’s a few houses around these blocks (take the one that just got raided by the federal government just up the street for human trafficking for instance) that I’d be happy to see be replaced by 3 story vacation rentals rather than drug and human traffickers, tweaker enablers, or hoarders. But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Some people like living amongst the filth.


LittleKumeyaayBoy August 3, 2023 at 4:30 pm

My point is that the broken windows theory can work the other way if a neighborhood reduces dilapidated buildings nearing condemnation. Look at Oceanside. The “ghetto by the sea” has seen much rejuvenation over the last 10 years. This gives me hope for my little neighborhood.


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