Scooter Corrals Being Marked in Ocean Beach by City Crews

by on July 12, 2019 · 24 comments

in Ocean Beach

There is a report on Social OB facebook that just was posted around 11am that states the City of San Diego has crews out there “right now” marking locations for scooter/ bikeshare corrals throughout Ocean Beach. These are on the street by existing red curbs.

If you see a spot near you that you have a serious beef about (other than just hating scooters) please post it at Social OB here.

By law, the scooter/bike companies would be required to stage their stuff in these locations unless there is no corral on that block.

For more info on this, read our report on the map for scooter corrals.

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Avatar Vern July 12, 2019 at 11:44 am

Additional bike parking there, too? Appears as though the community now has more places to park/store their bikes. Nice.

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Avatar Judy Swink July 15, 2019 at 9:51 am

Not for personal bicycles.

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Avatar Vern July 15, 2019 at 11:46 am

Hi Judi, why not for personal bikes? It’s a public space, isn’t it?

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Avatar Richard July 13, 2019 at 8:14 am

Vern,
Tired of your endless promotion of scooters and bikes trashing our community.

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Avatar Nicole July 15, 2019 at 6:20 am

Born n raised here and now raising my own obcean and you may be SHOCKED AND APPALLED to learn I think the scooters are great. Between our bikes, my husband’s motorcycle, bird scooters and our own paws, we rarely have to get in the car on the weekends these days, which is great considering the countless Ubers and lyft cars clogging up the streets.. Got down to the beach and forgot your sunscreen? Bird home and back in 5. Wanna get to the farmers market in a big? Bird yourself to fresh produce! Picking up burgers for the fam on a busy Friday? Birdy bird to Hodads and skip the line for take out.

They’ve saved us time and money more times than I can count. And yeah moving rudely parks birds is annoying, but less annoying than people complaining about them (or worse, kicking a whole row over, which is what I saw one disgruntled neighbor do. REAL HELPFUL CARL). GETTING CARS OFF THE STREET IS A GOOD THING! PERIOD!

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Avatar nostalgic July 13, 2019 at 12:53 pm

What our mayor proposed and the city council approved: “MC 83.0310 – Staging of Shared Mobility Devices – Shared mobility devices shall not be parked, displayed, offered or made available for rent: (1) … (2) within 40 feet of another shared mobility device on a city sidewalk or other property located in the beach impact area in the parking Impact Overlay Zone … except in groups of up to four where the shared mobility devices are spaced no more than one foot apart.” ( As our city streets are 40 feet or more, a street corner gets quite a few on a corner). The other restrictions have to do with downtown, disabled persons parking zones, hospitals, schools, and “within six feet in any direction of any sign marking a designated bus stop..” (which places them right by the bench, six feet from the bus stop sign.) This is the law that governs their placement.

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Avatar retired botanist July 13, 2019 at 4:24 pm

Just absurd. 1) Does it really need to be this complicated? 2) Why is the City kowtowing to these private for-profit companies? 3) and who is actually going to carry around this language and do any enforcement?c
I’m a bit with Richard on this… its infuriating that taxpayers/public citizens have to nail down every inch of public space these days…seemingly just gifted away by a City council that isn’t listening to its constituents.
Gawd, how do we take back the power?!

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Avatar Vern July 13, 2019 at 10:38 pm

But are these “parking corrals” only for these “businesses”?
Seems that any bike and any scooter could be parked there, not just the rental type. They don’t have to be electric or motorized, do they? There’s no sign saying “rental bikes and rental e-scooter parking only” is there? Couldn’t the community simply use these “corrals” for their own bikes and scooters? Maybe these “corrals” are exactly where the community parks its own vehicles.

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Avatar Judy Swink July 15, 2019 at 9:55 am

I don’t see why anyone would park a personal bicycle or scooter in these spaces. The rental e-bikes etc. cannot easily be moved unless activated. Owners of personal bicycles would prefer to lock to a fixed location: bike rack, light pole, fence….

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm

Yep, can you imagine how long someone’s personal bike or scooter would last in a corral?! About 2 heartbeats.

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Avatar ZZ July 15, 2019 at 1:00 pm

“Why is the City kowtowing to these private for-profit companies?”

Yeah, let’s ban/regulate out of existence all commercial vehicles from our roads too! Roads and sidewalks should be for non-profit purposes only. Walking to work on the sidewalk? Better pay rent to the city unless your job is at a charity.

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 2:22 pm

Seriously, ZZ?
Sorry, but that’s “chalk and cheese”, as the Brits say. Or, if that’s the City’s business model, then every individual who wants to sling lemonade, or incense, hot dogs or wind-up toys should also be given ‘free’ corral space to park their ‘product’….
Walking is a mobile activity last time I checked, so the walker isn’t “parking” all day in public space. Why jump to the absurd? :-)

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Avatar ZZ July 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

How is free scooter parking different than free parking of commercial vehicles, other than even a small commercial vehicle takes up far more space and emits far more pollution?

After another weekend of deafening, illegally-modified motorcycles roaring through residential streets and setting off one car alarm after another, I really don’t understand why people are so upset with silent little e- scooters.

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 3:01 pm

Yep, I’m totally with you on the motorcycle noise, noise pollution being one of the most under-addressed (and a personal pet peeve) issues going: Car alarms and stoopid key fob beeps, back-up beepers, weed whackers, leaf blowers, to name a few. Seriously, are we too lazy to just insert a key into a car door? Whoever invented these things should be made to sit next to them all day, everyday. And how many people are actually near their car to hear that alarm? None. Just the rest of us.
But commercial vehicles, and those designated parking spaces, I think are generally for loading and unloading only, like bus stops, right? I say, watch that space. Its going to be abused, neglected, and encroached.
E-scooters: silent they may be, but, haha, they “walk softly and carry a big stick”! Folks, like Nicole up above, think they’re bein’ all “green’ scootin’ home to get that sunscreen, but honestly, its just another buy-in to laziness, lack of the bigger picture, and an incredibly short-sighted solution to a serious transportation problem. What’s wrong with a pedal bike? Zero. :-)

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Avatar ZZ July 15, 2019 at 3:14 pm

I find the motorcycle noise to be worse than every other type of noise pollution put together. They are louder than planes by a wide margin, and the noise is often sudden and hits you like a physical assault.

I am fairly used to the airplanes, it only really annoys me when they come in groups one after another a couple minutes apart.

Leaf blowers and weed whackers are bad too, but the electric ones that have come out the past few years are 80% less noise (and 100% less local air pollution). Hope the city will eventually ban gas models. Another needless source of carbon exhaust and noise pollution are the advertising planes that fly over the beach.

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm

true that! Except for the planes…

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Avatar ZZ July 15, 2019 at 2:56 pm

Something else about deriding e-scooters as “for profit” is regressive and snobby. People who own cars purchased them from for-profit companies too. So what?

The new sharing-economy modes of transit (that also includes Uber and carshares like ZipCar) are a godsend for those who cannot afford a car.

Yes, the companies that provide them are “for profit,” but they are used the same way your private car that takes up the same space as 10 scooters when you park it on the street: to get someone from A to B. This isn’t a case of a company using city property for its own gain, rather it is using it to benefit its customers, most of whom live here and pay taxes for the roads, the same as car owners.

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 3:16 pm

Ok, ZZ, here’s where I take the side road, plus, don’t want to monopolize the thread. But follow the carbon. Follow the $. You’ll call me “old school”. I don’t have a smart phone, so I don’t have “apps” for anything. My car is a 2006 Toyota that is a hand-me-down, not an SUV or all terrain jeep off some fancy lot, and it certainly doesn’t have synched-in gadgets, or even a beeping key fob. A cab, when necessary, is the old school form of ride share, right?
With respect to the taxpayers, all those e-scooter riders (other than Nicole above who lives OB) live here? You mean like the 16,000 STVR users whose hosts are getting free trash pick-up?
Agree to disagree :)

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Frank Gormlie Frank Gormlie July 15, 2019 at 3:57 pm

retired botanist – please do! I’m getting tired of zz monopolizing the debate.

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Avatar retired botanist July 15, 2019 at 5:23 pm

sorry frank, sometimes its hard to resist the chum! :)

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Frank Gormlie Frank Gormlie July 15, 2019 at 3:56 pm

Ok zz, so the car companies should just dump their vehicles on our streets, lots and sidewalks, leaving the keys in … so, you’re missing it – whomever you are as you refuse to divulge your true identity all the way making outrageous claims and dissing others.

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Avatar Vern July 16, 2019 at 6:04 am

“… new sharing-economy modes of transit…”. Sharing? Seriously?
Rentals aren’t new. But the “dump it where you want” mindset might be. Who the heck cleans those filthy rental scooters (e-waste) anyway?

“… a godsend for those who cannot afford a car…” Booya, run the numbers, pal. Those that cannot afford a car cannot afford Uber to work. Uber is a taxi service – not new. MTS is a better bet and “shared” bus seats have been around for decades.

Regardless, how can a technology that requires electricity be better than manual alternatives like walking or biking? But just be careful when walking – you may get hit by a rental scooter.

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Frank Gormlie Frank Gormlie July 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm

Okay, zz, we get your point – you continually are making it. And you’re missing the overall picture; can’t see the forest cuz of the trees thing. You take an issue, push it to its extreme – which no one advocates – and then you charge against it. “Straw man (sic) argument”, a “red herring”.

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Avatar Vern July 15, 2019 at 11:43 am

Hi Judy, from the picture it appears that the parking rectangle “corral” is for scooters and bicycles, in general. At least there doesn’t appear to be a sign reading that only dockless rental e-scooters and dockless rental bikes can park there.

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