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Hey Frank, nice to see you this summer. good to see OB Rag is alive and well. I sure miss OB and it is nice to know it’s just a plane ride away to go back in time for me. love you, Donna


Gary Ghirardi / Nov 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 am

Another RAG in the tradition of the OBRag from Austin that dates back to the mid sixties, has gone on line after many years with an online blog:


and is archiving its old stuff online also:


There should be a “network” of these “spaces” to encourage their survival and renewal nationally. – ML


Judi Curry // Oct 13, 2008

I only stumbled onto your newsletter when a friend sent me an email re: the Octoberfest and there was a great picture of her and her husband in your picture section. Finally – someplace to go and read the views of people that think in the same vein as I do. I am going to spread the word – not just in OB but all over. It is wonderful to know that others feel the same way!


Tanja WInter // Aug 12, 2008

OB Rag is really impressive. My resistance to being swallowed up by my computer has kept me from spending more time on internet reading. I appreciate your articles.

I’ve been searching and demanding coverage of US involvement in Georgia-Russia confrontation. Hardly a peep out of anyone.


Anon92107 // Jul 11, 2008

Letter sent to Congresswoman Susan Davis:

Susan, this quote from Lee Iacocca applies to you: “We didn’t elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity.”

Susan, you had one of the best opportunities in American history to make the right things happen to protect the future for our children and grandchildren, and you failed completely.

Worst of all, you failed the tests of Democracy along with the leaderless congress, a judiciary that has overthrown the Rule of Law, and you let our education system crash and burn.

The biggest question today is can American Democracy survive your failures?


Tito Zevallos // Jul 9, 2008

Hey guys,

OBRag.org has received a mention in the “Ocean Beach” section of the San Diego Reader’s community blogs. It was posted by WT_Effman, another OBecian who believes in your mission. You may want to check it out at this URL:


Thanks for all that you do in the name of peace, justice and OB.


Citizens For A Better Veterans Home (founded 1998) // Jul 4, 2008

Mikey Weinstein, who has had his windows shot at and feces thrown in his yard, found a swastika on the front of his house over the weekend. “It’s a horrible feeling of humiliation, embarrassment and rage,” Weinstein said. “This one cuts the deepest. Whether you are Jewish or Christian, you don’t want a swastika on your house.”

Weinstein, a Jewish attorney and former counsel to President Ronald Reagan, made headlines in 2005 when he filed suit against the Air Force, claiming it imposed evangelical Christianity on academy cadets in violation of their constitutional rights. The suit was dismissed because the plaintiffs were no longer cadets. A group founded by Weinstein, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, filed a new suit in March that claimed the entire military is violating the religious liberties of servicemen and women. Weinstein and his two sons are graduates of the Air Force Academy. Weinstein was alerted to the swastika after two of his German shepherds started barking Saturday. He said he saw a dark car backing out of his driveway and found the swastika and a cross on the stucco next to his front door. The symbols were the size of a kitchen plate and looked like they had been written with magic marker.

“These people are cowards,” said Weinstein, whose story has been publicized on national talk shows and in newspapers across the country. It is also featured in a recently released documentary, “Constantine’s Sword,” by Oscar-nominated documentarian Oren Jacoby. The film’s Web site says it “focuses on Christian anti-semitism as the model for all religious hatred, exposing the cross as a symbol of a long history of violence against Jews.” The film is to open in Albuquerque on July 18.

Weinstein said he and his family started noticing unusual behavior at their home on Thursday.

They saw a car pulling out of their driveway one evening. Someone had turned off the fountain to their pond, killing one of their fish.

Sheriff’s officials said they plan to notify the New Mexico Gang and Terrorism Task Force and do periodic checks at Weinstein’s home.

“The swastika escalates things in my mind,” said Rabbi Arthur Flicker of Congregation B’nai Israel. “It symbolizes horrific racism and violence that our fathers and grandfathers fought to destroy.”


Tito Zevallos // Jul 3, 2008 at 6:18 pm

I’ve got an idea that should please everybody. Since we have beaches that are designated for special purposes, such as exercising dogs, why can’t we have a specific beach area that allows regulated consumption of alcohol? Regulations would include the usual and obvious, such as a ban on glass containers, and could contain other regulations to prevent abuse, such as not allowing anything larger than a quarter keg on the beach. This is pretty much how the smoking issue is handled and it seems to work well.

In Ocean Beach, I would suggest that the area on the south side of the pier and going north to the lifeguard station would be perfect. The area in front of that beach is a surfing-only area, so swimming under the influence would be discouraged. The area north of this allows swimming and body boarding, which families would be more inclined to enjoy.

By the way, I’m 49 years old, self-employed, and it’s MY BEACH too. I don’t see why I have to deprive myself of any rights to indulge the narrow-minded prejudices of others. Treating bad behavior by a minority of people with a full ban for everyone is tantamount to treating dandruff by decapitation.


Tito Zevallos // Jul 2, 2008

Hey Guys,

Nice blog! Glad to see the spirit of the OBRag and OBGO is still alive and kicking!

From the “Good News – Finally!” department, it appears Starbucks is reeling from a bad economy and is planning to shut down 600 stores.*

I bet the store in OB is one of them. Can’t wait to see a mom-and-pop Fair Trade Coffee shop replace their corporate rumps.




Doug Porter – June 20, 2008

wow! what a flashback.

as a former member of the red zoomie collective who contributed to some of the OB People’s Rag editions (I actually sold the Liberator for spare change), it’s really great to see that the progressive spirit is alive and kicking in OB.

I remember when Frank was “underground”, we faced daily harassment for our politics, and the times were so heady that we often debated whether or not it was worth it to pay the phone bill because the phone company would be amongst the first to go come the revolution.

I have recently relocated back to the San Diego area after 30+ years of being away. I look forward to becoming re-involved with the local scene as i ease myself back into life here.

Doug Porter.


max black crow // May 21, 2008 at 12:57 pm

I worked with the liberator in the late sixties and I wrote you what I was doing now. Back then we had socialist views. We always questioned the puritan colonialist values of this country. We fought for the right to speak when not spoken too, and always question authority ! I see the paper has changed and wonder why get caught up in the polictical machine. This country is broken, you all will never own homes or even get close to the so called american dream.

This was a Liberal paper? is it still? The issues are the working class issues, the struggle with corporate America. The fucking capitalist greed machine whom I had to work for and they’ve gained great profits off our blood and sweat. I’m 57 years old, I’ve never gave in to their ways. I ‘ve seen my co- workers killed and mamed at work. Then we recieve a mire fraction of the moneies from these companies. You need to get the word out that the working class is the backbone of America. If a corporations exceutives miss work for a month the coporation lives on, BUT! if we the workers stop for a week that corporation will die! The loss of income would cripple that company.

We the people have power. We need to stick together and pull ourselves out of this corporate hole they’ve put us in. Health care, and fuel should be taken out of the stock market. To make millions on health care stock is insane! making money of of people’s suffering is a sick nation. To make movie stars and sports figures our hero’s and pay them millions for entertainment is a travisty!

If the world went to war and the country destroyed, the working class will be hero’s and the sports and movie star will have to count on us to get the nation up and running! What the fuck has happened to our youth. Don’t get caught up in the politics , get to some real issues. no reason we can come to an agreement with companies to share the wealth. How many millions does it take for a family to live the American dream. I work hard and only welcome death to end my pain. I die owing people and have made pipelines for oil companies made shipsto move comodities. Then die poor and broken. I don’t get it? make me understand why you young thinkers can’t see or deal with some real issues? the Liberator did! We fought to be heard. I ended up killing for the united states of America in their Marine corp.

I believe in the United states as a people. I believe in you all. Find the real underlined issues like making the paying feild equal. No reason we all can’t retire and be able to live a good life. It’s peoples values and jealousy and greed that drives this Fucked up nation. Expose it ! write and fight about it. My father died without seeing the great things in this world. Working hard in the local ship yards making just barely enough. No reason this great nation should let that happen to any one parents. The greed in this countey is pheonaminal. We let it go on.

You young people can change this nation, just do it. Find a way to spread the money out in a way that we can all be happy. There so much I have learned and have seen. To much to write about. I grew up in S.D like I said before , my family has been there scince 1896.I’ve seen this place change so much that I actually moved because of it. I see the military with it’s right winged bullshit fuck this town up. Bringing racsim here from all the members they house here from all the racist states like Kentucky, Tenn, West Viginia , Arkansas need I say more. Get to the real struggle, anyone can point fingers at politicians, change the country just focus on our needs! Peace to you all … MAX


Christine / / April 30, 2008

I love OB! I am writing you because this election is critical and the money is pouring in from special interests aka developers that want to make OB look like a wasteland of 4-pack stucco condos like they did in so many other parts of SD. I run a website called developeralert.org . I am doing my best to provide info to the community on developer actions that are happening under the radar. That said, I guess I just wanna urge you and encourage you to get info out to readers about the money and where it is coming from. They want Aguirre out bad!!-The developers, the unions, the city people because of their pensions. They are really pushing Goldsmith and Goldsmith is a schill for special interests. Look what he did to Poway–he destroyed that town. He would be a disaster. Believe me I am totally on your side–you have a great community and this election will be critical in saving it.

Frank Gormlie // Jan 17, 2008 at 9:17 am

Thanks J. Stone; we did post that comment by Huckabeen on Jan. 16th.#

J.Stone // Jan 16, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Wondering why no one is covering the Republican candidates and the nonsense they continue to spew. I think it’s important to keep track of them. For example, I haven’t seen any media coverage of Huckabee’s intensions of actually changing the Constitution to be more “christian”. This is scary shit, and some how the info needs to get out. Obviously the main stream media is choosing not to include this when they gush about Huckabee’s ratings and poll numbers

Here are some idiotic comments he’s made recently;

From NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy

WARREN, Mich. – Huckabee’s closing argument to voters here this evening featured a few new stories and two prolonged sections on illegal immigration and Christian values.

These two topics usually feature prominently in Huckabee’s stump speech, but last night he got specific, promising to build a border fence within 18 months if elected and elaborating on his belief that the constitution needs to be amended.

“[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it’s a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that’s what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards,” Huckabee said, referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

Huckabee often refers to the need to amend the constitution on these grounds, but he has never so specifically called for the Constitution to be brought within “God’s standards,” which are themselves debated amongst religious scholars. As a closing statement he asked the room of nearly 500 supporters to “pray and then work hard, and in that order,” to help him secure a victory in Tuesday’s GOP primary.

I also found this, could very well be a mockup/fake but who knows


Lorrie // Jan 5, 2008 at 7:31 pm

This is terrific. Thank you! Hope it grows (in participation, if not in words).

Patrick // Dec 23, 2007 at 7:40 pm

Each time I read the Rag it seems to get better. You must have a lot of spare time on your hands, or you’re a literary genius, or there are a lot of ghost writers in OB. While on a bike ride the other day I spotted a wonderful bumper sticker. U.S. out of OB!

I like the updates on Blackwater, and I think articles on neo-liberalism & fascism are timely. I know those are broad & general, but there are so many instances where the fascists are winning-many instances that go unreported by anyone. Local reports about creeping fascism & militarism would be appreciated. Hope you’ve had a wonderful Winter Solstice Cocktail Evening.


Dave Sparling // Dec 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm

As a new resident of laid back OB I just want to say how happy I am to be here. A native of Phoenix and long time Zonie I only discovered OB a couple of years ago. It seems to be the perfect location for a old hippie liberal like myself. I hope to meet all of those who are involved in this venture.

You can find me at Winstons drunk poet society every Monday night 6 to 8. I always wanted to be a writer, but never had a loft in NYC or a cabin in Key West. OB has been both to me, and I can’t stop writing.

Byron // Nov 28, 2007 at 7:44 am

From Randi Rhodes web site


The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act

Posted November 26, 2007 | 10:06 AM (EST)

There has been a long tradition of fear-mongering legislation in the United States directed against groups and individuals believed to threaten the established order. The first such measures were the Alien and Sedition Acts passed by Congress in 1798 during the administration of the second president of the United States John Adams. The Acts, consisting of four separate laws, made it more difficult to become a citizen, sought to control real or imagined foreign agents operating in the United States, and also gave the government broad powers to control “sedition.” Sedition was defined as “resisting any law of the United States or any act of the President” punishable by a prison sentence of up to two years. It also made illegal “false, scandalous or malicious writing” directed against either the government or government officials. The next President, Thomas Jefferson declared that three out of the four laws were unconstitutional and pardoned everyone who had been convicted under them.

[for more of this article which was originally posted as a “Letter to the Editor”, see the posted article itself.]

OB Joe // Nov 18, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Congrats! I’d like to see more posts on OB however. Like, what is happening on Newport Ave, what is happening with the planned condos for the foot of Saratoga?#

Frank Gormlie // Nov 3, 2007 at 5:24 pm


Right on, Bro! Poor people do have a right to live at the beach, and that’s been one of the principles that OB activists over the years have adhered to, most recently in a group called the Ocean Beach Grassroots Organization (OBGO). 5/7’s of OB’s residents are tenants, yet the threats of gentrification, over-development, and corporate-take-over of our main street businesses remain constant and ever alive. Since the early 70’s there’s been a community resistance to the urban planning designs of the establlishment and power structure; such landmarks as the stopping of the jetty in 1970, the saving of Collier Park, the passage of the 30 foot height limit in 1972. and the establishment of the OB Planning Board in 1976 – the first democratically-elected community planning committee in the history of California – remain in our most recent community history. (See “1st OB Rag” page). More recently, groups such as OBGO, the Coalition to Save OB, and community-minded businesspeople have made efforts to prevent Newport Avenue from becoming a strip of franchise-city. It’s been an on-going battle to ‘save OB’ and it ain’t over yet.

Eric Parish // Nov 3, 2007 at 12:07 pm

I haven’t been able to afford to live in OB for decades. The rent got to be too much back in 1983. Living a block from the beach were very happy years for me. It is nice to see the politics have survived. Never let them turn you into another Leucadia or Encinitas. Poor people should never have to abandon the beach.

Frank // Nov 3, 2007 at 9:39 am


Thank you for your report. There was nothing in today’s Union-Tribune (11/3/07) about any protests in Venezuela. Keep them coming.

Frank Gormlie

G Ghirardi // Nov 2, 2007 at 7:09 pm

I don’t know if you consider this relevant for the Rag but it is hot off the press – G

Venezuela: Two opposition confirmed Killed and eight wounded at the University of Zulia

11-02-07 / 9:30PM

Maracaibo -An incident of gun violence resulted in the confirmed death of one student and one unidentified person on the University of Zulia Campus today and eight wounded on the Eve of an Opposition march on Saturday and a Chavista march on Sunday on the opposite side of the country in the capital of Caracas. There are also unconfirmed reports that an additional two people have died from their wounds.

Many pro government supporters feel that this was manufactured violence to disrupt the socialist constitutional referendum that is pending and put U.S. and International pressure on the Bolivarian movement and the PSUV party (Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela) of Hugo Chavez. Student violence occurred throughout the week in staged confrontations by opposition groups in Caracas. Mayor Barreto had given the protesters a wide berth and there have been no serious injuries to government supporters or opposition protesters or retaliation by police against the students but many police, including a police chief negotiating with the protesters, sustained injuries by rioting students. Many images showing up in U.S. media coverage were of the violence of opposition student violence attributed to a response by students to police violence.

Zulia Governor Rosales chose not to intervene on the student violence at the University of Zulia. Venezuelan law does not permit troops or municipal police to enter universities as they are considered autonomist zones that are self policed by university guards.

The opposition political party, Primary Justice, ran as their presidential candidate Zulia Governor Rosales against Chavez in the last election.

Reports on the government news channel in Caracas, Canal Ocho, are claiming that gunfire broke out during student elections at the Engineering School of the university as two rivaling opposition student parties, Un Nuevo Tiempo (A New Time) and University Christian Democracy, skirmished. Reports are sketchy about the death toll but it appears that two people were killed, a woman and a man.. Police officials on the government channel are saying that they have no one in custody and are still investigating the shooting and interviewing witnesses. The police official also interjected that students should not have permitted the entry of non-student outsiders into the voting proceedings. The corporate channels like Venevision and Globovision have been silent on the story.

The student and allied opposition groups hope to instigate a U.S. military intervention poised as a humanitarian mission to restore their freedoms they claim have been denied them under the Chavez Government and as a pretext for removing Chavez from the hemisphere.

Zulia is an area of Venezuela bordering Columbia. The U.S. military maintains the Plan Columbia “drug eradication” operation on the Columbian side. Paramilitary groups wage a campaign of extra judicial executions against those activists working it the mountainous border area to initiate and carryout government reform and social programs. FARC rebel troops also operate in this region and have been one of the primary issues for U.S. Foreign Policy grievances against the Chavez Government. – G. D. Ghirardi#

Frank Gormlie // Oct 31, 2007 at 12:08 pm

Jackie – You’ve struck several themes that our blog has attempted to illuminate: the inspiration and disheartenment that many of us have felt from our region’s responses to the 2007 wildfires – the giving, generosity and solidarity of San Diegans for those evacuated and in need, but at the same time the governments’ failures – such as the lack of sufficient fire fighting aircraft, the reverse 9-1-1 calls only in English, orders for mandatory evacuations while not providing for fire protection, discriminating against immigrants during this crisis….

… Let’s turn our anguish into discussions and actions to change it for the better. – Frank

Jackie McElveny // Oct 31, 2007 at 11:03 am

Okay, now i can’t figure out how to do a new post here. I’m really not technolically challenged, it’s just not readily apparent. Sorry. Here is what I posted to one of my other groups tonight about the fires, Katrina, the present administration base, and how bureaucracy is crippling this country almost beyond redemption. Oh and also, about the good citizens of San Diego and about the role of media in our elections. Yep! All over the landscape……..

Okay, can I just call it like I see it? My heart goes out to all those who lost their homes, rich or poor, and I know and work with some of the rich ones (who lost homes): I work in medicine and they are doctors. I don’t hold rich against them and have a good relationship with most of those I work with. BUT, read on.

I’m not even sure where I’m going with this, I’m finding my way. The people in New Orleans were considered disposable. Let me start there. Rich anybody is not disposable. This is the “Base” that Bush so blatantly refers to.

Okay, next talking point, and I’m still not sure where I’m going: the citizens of this city are the real heroes in terms of aid! And it was like that with Katrina – people from all over the country converging with EXTREMELY necessary aid and BLOCKED by the #*!#-ing bureaucracy, read: federal government. Oh, sorry, you don’t meet the regulations, can’t help, these people are going to have to die…..And die they did, thank you US government. Back to the citizens, ordinary San Diego people: friends of mine sheltered in Valley Center and one of them reports it was working VERY well until the Red Cross got involved. Yet more bureaucracy. I think this country is going to sink into the ocean from the weight of how completely bureaucratic it has become.

As for those front and center with the media. It was heartening to know that Susan Davis and Donna Frye were right there quietly helping – and that was absolutely the best use of their time. But when the elections come around, they are going to be won or lost in the media, which is – well I don’t know WHAT that is, maybe an indictment of where our society is at present. It actuallly WOULD have been good for Susan and Donna to make time for some media exposure. Barbara Boxer? I don’t know where she was. Dianne Feinstein? I know where she was because my 80-year-old mom called me (yes, an elderly progressive in very sense of the word), sputtering, after the Bush press conference which I could not bear to watch. And, yes, there was our own Dianne, right up there at the podium (well, I didn’t watch it, I’m only relating what Mom told me) with all the right-wing establishment.

Sorry for this disjointed, all-over-the-landscape post, but I’m angry, I’m sad, I’m disheartened.

Monty Reed Kroopkin // Oct 26, 2007 at 9:08 pm

Dear Ocean Beach Rag,

Congratulations and applause to Frank Gormlie and Patty Jones on the new OB Rag blog at http://obrag.org/, and on the seed of a new OB Rag publication. And I am very happy to see links to some recent articles on the new Students for a Democratic Society (SDS).

Community press organizations like the original Ocean Beach People’s Rag are still needed, and might find a new (and less expensive to sustain) life online (combined with downloadable pdf versions that are ready to print, for decentralized hard copy distribution).

Please contemplate the story of sister publication, The Columbus Free Press. They have a good summary at http://www.freepress.org/about.php and their current online edition is at http://www.freepress.org/index2.php PLUS their hard copy editions can be viewed online at http://www.freepress.org/journal.php . Seems they actually have the “Journal” version done by a printer and distributed the old fashioned way.

I would love to see not only the Rag grow again in this manner, but a number of other San Diego area newspapers presently defunct, or, I prefer to think, dormant. The New Indicator? The Street Journal? The start up costs to print an online edition are comparable to running a blog. The difference is the more involved range of content (and reporters) and the visual presentation. Doing layout is still doing layout, and publishing an online newspaper is more time consuming than producing a blog. The software is rather widely available, and not so expensive, especially for a group.

I also invite readers to check out a press research webpage I’m developing at . It is part of a new website for the Movement for a Democratic Society (which is a community-based project of the new Students for a Democratic Society). The site has links to the main SDS website and to the info page for the New Left Cafe listserv, and to the non-profit foundation which has been formed for fund-raising and other support work for SDS. One subject raised within SDS/MDS is a possible project to organize better communication and cooperation within the progressive press community. I see the potential for an effective global Left as tied greatly to our means of communication. We have a lot of work to do in this field.

Yours for the “Whole Damn Pie Shop” (not just a piece of the pie) !

Monty Reed Kroopkin

San Diego SDS-MDS Chapter contact

cc: many friends of the OB Rag

New Left Cafe (discussion listserv of SDS-MDS)

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avatar Alecia January 28, 2014 at 9:48 pm

Another beautiful day on the OB dog beach- from the pups perspective :)


avatar Anthony jones January 30, 2014 at 10:28 am

Hey Alecia I know dog beach seems so peaceful-cool but a tragic horror happened to Teen lovers there that is a best selling book- a movie is in the works to be made about what happened on dog beach to the 2 teens.
check it out Google “scribd an american horror love story”


avatar vickie February 2, 2014 at 1:59 pm

I lived in O.B. during the 70’s AKA “The Glory Days.” Remember the free bug bus that offered rides to SDSU and back? I also remember The O.B. Pirate Ghost. Does anyone know where I can find information on him? (I actually saw him.)


avatar Daniel Bille March 17, 2014 at 12:14 am

Letter to the Editor

Good Neighborhood, Bad Neighbors.
Living in Ocean Beach on and off for twelve years, I have a unique perspective based on my military experience throughout the world. This area is rich in stories and traditions and has developed a distinct reputation. Fairly or not, inhabitants of Ocean Beach are seen by outsiders as eclectic bunch. As a result, inhabitants of Ocean Beach also need to be accepting of the diversity of background and ideas found here.
I became fully aware of this when I became a permanent home owner in the area, married and started a family here. There are wonderful things to see here in OB like the weekly farmers market and the Christmas Parade, and disconcerting things such as on-street camper habitation and open drug use. I respect that people in OB have strongly differing opinions, but that they still find a way to live next to each other in relative peace.
Sadly, I write this article about those who threaten that peace.
Peace is the freedom from disturbance; quiet and tranquility. I have seen war close up myself, and know peace is also the freedom from violence. Peace is something I sought after years embroiled in the conflicts of the world. Peace is what I seek for my family to raise our children in the presence of.
Now imagine my dismay after seeking and achieivng peace in my neighborhood, a group of renters move in to the property adjacent to mine who only seek to cause chaos and conflict. People who have no care of the community or desire to contribute, but only to drown in alcohol and drugs. They fight amongst themselves with all the impunity of the ignorant, and celebrate from dusk to dawn.
There are many soft hearted people who will read this and make the normal suggestions of communication, parlay, and negotiation. Let me assure you I have tried all of these things, and the result has been continued and increasing aggression and deviation. Does begging a rat to stop spreading disease and cease nesting in your house work? It may hide for a time, but it will return again when your back is turned. So too do our neighbors. Going into hiding for weeks at a time under scrutiny, only to return to bad habits after a time.
So what is a responsible adult to do when dealing with such a problem? Call the Police? To date, 911 has been called on these residents over nine times, four times by our family. Long conversations with the authorities has only illuminated frustrating facts such as: A hostile neighbor waits for your bedroom light to go out, then takes to opportunity to trespass onto your property hanging over your sleeping babies bedroom, spitting and throwing food on her window, while attempting to destroy the security camera placed solely for your child’s safety after threats were made against your family by said intruder. Police respond more than 2 hours later and tell you that there is nothing they can do, as no ‘criminal act’ has occurred. Verbal threats to your life and safety, family and property require an actual weapon to be considered enough for criminal action. Yes, these are factual events.
And what does the rental property owner think? He ignores pleas, concerns and even angry calls fully knowing that nothing can force him into action. Three of the worst renters are his own family who he has sequestered after problems in other communities. To-date, we count eight total renters at this neighboring property.
Can a higher fence help? The adage is “good fences make good neighbors” falls flat in the densely populated and congested living environment we have in Ocean Beach. The city of San Diego limits fence heights to 6 feet (anything higher requires a setback), and no sharp objects (such as barbed wire) can be used that may cause injury to prevent badly intentioned invasion at night. A 6 foot fence is not much protection against a hooligan armed with a ladder, drunk and high on marijuana.
So what is a father in fear for the safety of his family and his family to do? Discussions of moving away have been repeatedly raised. Should responsible owners be forced out by renters who have no decency? I draw on my experience in conflict for an answer; running from bullies only makes them grow bolder. Lack of accountability for their hostilities also emboldens them. One decent neighboring family has already moved away, being too frail to deal with the situation. This member of the community who has actively contributed and lived in that house for 20 years reached the point where she gladly moved away to seek peace elsewhere. Her final thought to me were “Boy, am I glad I don’t have to live next to those [renters] any longer.”
Why do I write the public of my family’s woes and fears? Because Iam asking for your help. You. I need you to be a good neighbor.
Have you ever seen or heard something that you know is wrong? Do you see problems around you and hope that someone else deals with it? Do you draw your blinds and hide? Do you see someone arguing on the street and stand idly by? Do you listen to loud domestic arguments and choose to close your ears and turn up the TV? Did you do something about it, or did you ignore it? I have. I chose not to involve myself in the affairs of others in the hopes that peace would soon return.
Now, I face hostility on a level that keeps me in fear. Why you ask? Because Idid call the police. I called the police, and I admitted to it. I called peace officers for help, and after they issued a warning and departed, I had to continue to live next to people that are not afraid of the law or breaking it. And I have been the only person to ask. Herein lies the problem. According to San Diego Police, action against disruptive behavior is based solely on the quantity of calls by three or more neighbors. I know other people have been bothered by the noise and arguments, but have done nothing about it for fear of being the focus of the renter’s ire. I have no doubt that I did the correct thing calling 911 the first time, and second, and third… and so on. After seeing one hostile renter perched over my daughters room in the middle of the night I do begin to wonder why I was the only one making calls.
So I beg of you to be a good neighbor. If you see something, please say something. Do not tolerate those who create chaos. Please help bring OB some peace.
Daniel Bille
West Point Loma Blvd. home owner.
Military Veteran, Loving Husband and Father.


avatar judi curry March 17, 2014 at 5:37 pm

Methinks that you didn’t do enough investigation into what Ocean Beach was all about before you made your purchase. This reminds me of the woman that marries the man with the hopes of changing him into what she wants – not what he is. OB is OB – it isn’t going to change for you or anyone else.


avatar OB Dude March 17, 2014 at 6:16 pm

“People who have no care of the community or desire to contribute, but only to drown in alcohol and drugs. They fight amongst themselves with all the impunity of the ignorant, and celebrate from dusk to dawn.”

This is what OB is about and should be accepted? Would this be tolerated in your neighborhood?


avatar John Filthy March 18, 2014 at 9:25 am

Parts of West Point Loma and Northeast OB AKA ‘The War Zone’ have always been known as a partying place in the twenty years I’ve been around. Judi is right that people should do their research buying. You wouldn’t buy a house for a young family in an SDSU party neighborhood and expect quiet. Likewise you don’t move to a place called the War Zone that is full of renters and pot smokers and expect a party-free home-owner atmosphere. I loved living in that area for years, but picked a different neighborhood to raise my kids. That’s just me, I know others who raised kids in that hood, and they turned out great.

This letter is one side of a story. The cops don’t act on the say-so of one person, as this letter noted. Would the renters say Dan and the home-owners next door are good neighbors? If they have had 911 called on them nine times I would guess no. 911 is supposed to be an emergency service for people who need urgent medical attention and crimes in progress. Noise and arguments are annoying but hardly a 911 matter.

Where I live now I own and my next door neighbors rent. They are not the most responsible bunch, had their power turned off for nonpayment and ran a generator in their garage, dog loose crapping on our lawn, annoyances like that. How did I solve it? I brought over a few beers and sat down for a chat. Problem solved. Anthony’s suggestion is not off-base.


avatar Daniel Bille March 18, 2014 at 10:28 am


Your suggestion was tried 3 times with repeated false promises to reform. I also assume you would have second thoughts about sharing a beer with a person that threatens to harm you.

You make a poor assumption that I live near “the War Zone”, I do not. In my 12 years here I have, and I decided to move to a more family friendly part of the area to raise my child.

The original neighbors were an elderly family who moved last year due to cancer and were replaced by the persons that have driven me to appeal to the public in my letter.


avatar Sarah March 18, 2014 at 10:51 am

You probably already found this link, but just in case you haven’t, here you go: http://www.sandiego.gov/police/services/prevention/community/reportingother.shtml#neighborhood

I met Fred Zuckerman when I was helping someone else with a problem much like this one. He may be able to help you. In our case, the problem tenants moved away. Perhaps because of all the times the cops came around.

My best advice is to document, document, document… Keep a log with dates, times and what happened. Gather evidence and take the property owner to court if you can.

I happen to believe that we can have the “funkiness” and the fun of OB alongside the families and retired folks, but only if we are willing to put our collective feet down and demand it. I’m with you, I’ve been there, too., and it’s a terrible, helpless feeling.


avatar Daniel Bille March 18, 2014 at 12:17 pm


Thank you, I have been in very close contact with Mr. Zuckerman after I realized that this issue was beyond my unilateral ability to resolve. He has advised no contact with them, and no retribution.

Unfortunately, this has been taken as a sign of weakness, not maturity, and the hostility increased.

I have documented for months, in hope that would deter violence. I have appealed to reason, begged, cajoled, hid, sued for peace, and stood up to violence. I can truthfully say I have used every tool given to me to bring peace, with only short periods of reprieve that give me false hope.
Since the trespass at my baby’s window in the middle of the night, I have realized that I cannot protect my family alone. I too must sleep. I can appeal for help from the community to care enough to help prevent crime by not being completely indifferent. I only ask if you see or hear something wrong, don’t ignore it as ‘not my problem’.


avatar Debbie March 18, 2014 at 5:15 pm

I feel for you. There is power in numbers and hopefully you have the support of your immediate neighbors. Sounds like there are quick a few readers of the RAG that are behind you 100%. You can’t bring a six pack over to a bunch of hell raisers and hope that you can make nice with them (especially if you are woman). Seldom can you teach people how to be respectful…sounds like their parents failed in this area.

But if the police aren’t helping, then call Claudia Jack at the OBMA ….she’s got connections or may be able to offer some advice.

Good luck


avatar kenloc March 19, 2014 at 10:46 am

The big problem I see here is that someone was outside your babies window,you saw them ,and that person is not in the hospital,in jail,or worse.
There are boundaries Dad’s must enforce on their own when it comes to their families. Being outside my kids window is a huge no no,war zone or not,and I think most normal people understand this is a good way to get yourself hurt.
Threats are one thing.When someone comes on to your property and you fear for your safety or your families safety,a new set of rules applies.


avatar Anthony Jones March 19, 2014 at 2:28 pm

I think we have a play on words here by DAN- lets put this under a microscope Dan says people came to his babies window, if the cops were called-they did nothing this means nothing illegal was done.-if there was anything illegal then the cops would have arrested the party animals -they would have been taken to jail!

I am calling it as as I see it. this is a clash of cultures- OB VS Point Loma [ thank god there is city limits between OB-PL-preventing this crowd from coming here- dictating their cultural views in OB] DAN is overreacting – maybe exaggerating a little -fishing for a pity party parade of followers, this play on words is how the OB VFW was shut down by a DAN complaining -CRYING of a made up bogus problem that really did not exits at the OB VFW! -getting followers- then getting traction to get rid of the OB VFW!

If Crying DAN had his way there would be the same type of Point Loma type party curfews here is OB!


avatar John July 5, 2014 at 11:18 pm

Put a piece of plywood over the inside of your baby’s window, replace the lost sunlight with a skylight, keep your activities to the other side of the house, and forget about them. If you see them in passing do not look their way but also do not avoid looking their way.
In all your worldly travels it seems you never learned there are certain people you don’t want to start a pissing contest with because they may just enjoy showering in urine. Everything you did simply escalated and encouraged further provocation on their part.
You’ve given them raison d’etre. In that sense you own them as much as they own you. If you tried to document their activities on camera I suspect you’ll only raise the rung on their offenses and lower the bar on your own piece of mind. Unless you enjoy the conflict of course.
The only crushing blow you can deliver is to not acknowledge their existence, and make your own insulated from their influence.
I wish you luck.
To those who commented about OB being a funky party town, well of course it is and this person does sound like maybe he is a poor fit for the community. However I think the description he’s given of his neighbors, particularly the accounts of his child, deem he’s enduring having outright psychopaths as neighbors and this is a special case.
No matter how special there are always solutions, and I think like ignoring forum trolls is the only poison for that rat, I’ve described a good one


avatar John Filthy March 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm

I’m sorry but if you live on WPL and in OB then you must live relatively close to the war zone. Either that or you are in Sports Arena and not OB.

I acknowledge that there are some people that won’t listen to reason and free beer. When I’m in situations like that I change tactics and try to give the neighbors a dose of their own medicine, make them call the cops. If kept up late with loud music, they get a loud early wake up. If threatened with violence, I get right in their angry face and challenge them to do it. It’s a tactic that has got me punched in the face, but then the cops can do something.

I have a neighbor something like that now. He’s a creepy old man who stares at every woman on the street and makes sexual comments. (I have a young daughter) He spies on all the neighbors and calls code enforcement, parking enforcement, anything he can do to be a nuisance. The last postwoman had a restraining order against him… we have a postman now. Once he watched my place until I left and then came over knocked on the back door and propositioned my wife. I’ve caught him on my property when he thought I wasn’t around. He has threatened me with violence telling me his friends are going to kick my head in.

My response has been to get nose to nose with him anytime he opens his mouth and challenge him to do something. Whenever he goes out to stare I stand there and stare him straight in the eye. He makes himself much more scarce now. I’ve talked to all our neighbors about it and everyone either has a mild dislike or a seething hatred for him. We all watch out for each other and keep tabs on him. We don’t bother with the cops, they don’t help. The best tactic I’ve found to deal with him is to talk to my neighbors outside in front of his place and let him know we are watching him. They make a lot of video cameras now that are almost impossible for people to detect. Once you have something on them with video then you might have something you can take to the public. Otherwise your immediate neighbors are the only ones who can know the truth of the situation.


avatar anthony jones March 17, 2014 at 11:54 am

Hey Dan OB has been-will always be a funky party beach town- if you look at the history of OB it was founded basically by parting bohemians wanting to get away from conservative San Diego society – if you seek a nirvana neighborhood scene where everyone is a Mr Rodgers singing every day ,it’s a wonderful day in the neighborhood won’t you be my neighborhood-then move to La hoya or another conservative part of San Diego>>>’THIS IS OB A PARTY DOWN ROCK-ROLL TOWN”

Thanks for bringing to my attention the new all night party goers location because I am going to buy a 12 pack-go over-party with them-hey let me recommended you get into the OB swing-go over party with them


avatar OB Dude March 17, 2014 at 5:25 pm



avatar Gail March 17, 2014 at 7:39 pm

A “funky, party beach town” should not include domestic violence or neighbors that threaten or intimidate small children. Doesn’t sound like a party to me…….


avatar Sarah March 18, 2014 at 7:12 am

Judi? Really?

OB can and SHOULD change when it comes to the behaivor to which this writer is referring.


avatar Catherine March 18, 2014 at 10:30 am

I agree. The fact that anyone thinks you should have to put up with such behavior because “hey, it’s OB” is part of the problem. Or do we define ourselves solely by the party scene? I’ve lived in OB for years and it is as much a family neighborhood as a funky, party town. Walk around in the morning and see all the families walking and biking their kids to OB Elementary. Spend some time at the playground on Ebers and Saratoga. There a lots and lots of wonderful people trying to raise their children in this neighborhood because it’s beautiful and fun and there’s lots to do and see. Does that mean we occasionally have to sidestep broken beer bottles on the sidewalk? Or remove them from the playground before our children can enjoy themselves there? Yes, unfortunately. But that doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t say it’s a problem or support changes that could improve the situation. Unfortunately, there really is not much that can be done about this poor man’s crappy neighbors, not without a lot of documenting the situation and calling the police for every incident. Even then, he’s going to have a hard time. But if your response to this eloquent plea is to say “get over it” as if people who choose to live here don’t deserve a little common decency, then you are part of the problem.


avatar gristmiller June 13, 2014 at 5:30 pm



avatar Cynthia June 17, 2014 at 11:31 pm

The last input sounds like it could make a difference…usually there are also legal issues such as ‘quiet & peaceful enjoyment’ that can be pushed in small claims court or in places that would embarrass the owner of the property. There are already 12 marijuana applications for the Midway District (adjoins PL/OB-don’t know how many are ‘allowed’ or how close, or traffic safety issues on our Peninsula), so you might want to be involved in helping put some of the law enforcement restrictions into place that might also regulate/catch who’s getting the drug illegally. Testifying at these ‘rule-gathering’ decisions may help, locally. Why they don’t just sell it at a drug store, may cause even more abuse…but believe me, the difference from 35 years ago to today in the ‘war zone’ is a lot of change. We’re at the beginning of a new baby boom, so get involved with the local pre-to elementary school parents, get petitions signed to make better rules for everybody. There is a lot of power in numbers, even if it means taking it up with our Mayor..and Council person (call to ask our present councilmember who’s a family man, who to contact to learn as much as you can about how it might help your situation…and get others to ask, repeatedly & from many)..we have made ‘the impossible’ happen a few times in my years here! Also, the proposed “Unacceptable Density” & zone changes will cause More of these same problems in the OB community, for more of your neighbors..do they ‘know’ about it? see: http://www.10news.com/news/petition-lack-of-development-restrictions-will-could-wipe-out-character-of-ocean-beach NOW is the Time to Say something, as an individual and as many Groups….June 30th Planning Commission or Council will hear it…if they HEAR it televised, the results of their Density-Planning to everyday people (and visitors), somehow their ‘tourist family visitors’ (future revenues for SD)…& buyers may be threatened. I hear Twitter is making a difference with corporations and their services (like the US auto makers) vs. Sharp (excellent service for their housing products-5 yr. warranties) vs. Samsung’s ‘high end’ ($400 to $2900) TVs that have Zero warranties after 2-4 yrs.
The American way has always been to make things better for everyone…quality of life issues, schools, finances…I’ve done it all, don’t let anyone tell you that you ‘can’t make a difference.’ And sometimes your kids (and you) benefit from those teeny little things you do…calls to your elected representatives, letters, (they really hate faxes or so many emails that crash their systems), emails, petitions, neighborhood watch meetings, get to know your nice neighbors, they probably are upset as well. What do we teach our kids? Many hands make light work…same applies to making positive changes…eventually everyone else ‘gets it.’ It affects all our property values. There are always ways to compromise with rules…its the consequences that have to be determined. I hear that the newer social media like twitter, may go far…to help our ‘representatives’ learn How to ‘represent? Give a call for any more thoughts..most everyone knows of me…
Prior 5 of 6 yr. Elected Chair, PCPB
10-yr. appointed member, Excess School Property, SDUSD
17-yr member volunteer, Gov’t. Affairs, SDAR
Prior Co-Chair, DanaNOW
28+ yr. REALTOR


avatar taylor bell March 18, 2014 at 7:17 pm

Here is my OB resume: http://youtu.be/cQjdq6uLzKM I am the teen getting arrested in the video- Dan over the years I would see articles in news paper letters to the editor about people who had moved next to airports-freeways-railroad tracks-landfills- now were crying –moaning –groaning about the noise- pollution-traffic -it would always hit me why did they move there is the first place-now I see you are crying=moaning –groaning about the partiers in you neighborhood in OB!

OB is the sister city to Haights Ashbury in San Francisco- a city made up of predominantly counter Coulter folks-business –lifestyles

I am going to call it the way I see it>>> you got Sh*&^%T faced because your neighbors were NOT breaking any laws this is why the cops could not do anything about it, the main reason you got Sh*&^%T faced is you are basically a displaced Point Lomian-not an Obceian-you dislike parting why not admit it.

Well let me remind you that OB is one big party town-if you don’t like this then there are many place where you can move to- enjoy a Point Loma Lawrence Welk atmosphere you seem to prefer, as for someone saying they are going to bring their boys in to help stop the partiers, this is as ridiculous’s as me saying I am going to the wall to get my boys to go to a Point Loma neighborhood- demand that they start partying



avatar Katherine Dominguez March 21, 2014 at 1:27 pm

Thank You on behalf of all Blackfish!! Thank You for helping to bring more exposure to this cause!


avatar Antony Jones March 22, 2014 at 9:50 am

Please enlighten us Katherine?What is blackfish?-Exposure to what cause?


avatar Katherine Dominguez March 22, 2014 at 11:16 am

Antony, it surprises me that with all the information readily available you are not aware of this documentary and the truths that it exposes. You can watch it on Netflix. The cause that I’m referring to is the abuse that orca, dolphins, and other marine animals suffer at marine parks such as seaworld and aquariums all around the world. You should definitely watch Blackfish but you can research and find an infinite amount of information all over the web. The main point is that these marine animals, and all other animals as well, should not be brutally torn from their home in the wild to be placed in small spaces for the entertainment of people. It is unnatural and cruel. These animals are intelligent, they are mammals, and are self-aware as so much scientific research has proven. They are masturbated by humans (raped) for their poor breeding programs, starved as a form of punishment when they don’t perform, fed dead fish as their diet, and are kept in tiny cement pools which are in horrible conditions. Since the orca are separated from their families and the calf is separated from the mother, they are often bullied and attacked by other orca. There is an extremely low life expectancy and an extremely high death rate. All of these are facts. For those that say that we won’t learn about these mammals or we won’t learn to love them if there are no orca held in captivity in these parks, that is untrue. Most of these parks charge a high admission fee and since there isn’t one in every state people have to travel to visit these parks. Instead, we can travel to see them in the wild, thriving, as they are meant to be. There are many businesses that offer whale watching tours and that is truly educational and entertaining. Because we all know that we never really leave these parks with any education regarding these animals, but instead, with an over-priced stuffed animal. So, in conclusion, captivity for Any animal is wrong. It is barbaric and disrespectful to nature.
I hope that I have been helpful and answered your question in some way.


avatar June Bird Killington March 27, 2014 at 2:28 pm

Could you please help me to speak up for the captive performing dolphins at Seaworld on the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
We love them rescuing cetaceans but we loathe them keeping dolphins as prisoners in their aquaprison.
They need to be rehabilitated and freed or taken to a safe sanctuary/bay/cove paid for by Seaworld to live out their lives without human interference.



avatar Scott Doetsch April 12, 2014 at 4:41 pm

Many of the small business owners (Kathy Blavatt suggested I reach out to you) I am helping right now think that they missed the deadline. I’m referring to the ACA (better known as Obama Care). We actually have until the close of business on Monday, 4/14, to complete the apps for anyone who couldn’t do it on their own. Please contact me at your earliest convenience so that I can help as many people as possible. My little Orange office is across the street from Rite-Aid in OB.

Thank you.
Scott Doetsch


avatar sandiegonative 1966 April 18, 2014 at 9:24 am

I also make neckless’s hand made from beach rocks.I cut polish drill and string.I can not do my normal job do to back injury.After reading this back and forth bull power struggle crap I dont even want to go out on my own and try to make a little cash. No i will be funneled into paying money that i don’t have to get a table somewhere and pay 50 dollars and maybe break even.For the “BETTER OF THE COMUNITY”. Sorry guys as far as OB goes we lost that great little beach town in the early 80?s. It’s still a good beach town.Big Busness and shop owners and cops will always eventually take over.I thank lucadia is the last standing kept the same beach town in sandiego. Keep Lucadia Funky.


avatar Gary Ghirardi April 20, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Ditto for Downtown 1966. We lost a cool enclave community still undiscovered by speculators and their political lackeys in the late 80’s. Social Darwinism is the golden rule in the States.


avatar Katherine Dominguez April 18, 2014 at 9:55 am

June Bird Killington, I signed and shared your petition.


avatar Cynthia April 26, 2014 at 12:28 pm

Please learn when it’s appropriate to use an apostrophe and when it’s not! It is very distracting to read an article that misplaces them repeatedly. Here’s a guide from The Oatmeal: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe


avatar Demetrius May 8, 2014 at 1:27 am

Not as friendly as they think
My wife and I lived in OB last summer trying to decide if we wanted to buy a condo. Shortly after being there,weeks, we noticed that the locals acted snobbish at first we thought oh that’s just that person but we noticed it more and more. For example we would walk and say excuse me to get around people blocking the sidewalk or trail and they would not move. It seemed as though that people were always looking for a fight. I guess that is the OB state of mind.


avatar Katey Hicks May 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm

There is something wonderful happening in Ocean Beach. No, I’m not talking about the mouth watering food or the bikini fueled summer that is about to begin. You will now notice that when you make that turn down Newport Avenue, you will find that you are not surrounded by the usual smoke shops and thrift stores. The corner of Newport and Sunset Cliffs is becoming a mecca for antique and consignment stores. San Diego residents from Carlsbad to El Cajon are coming to Ocean Beach to spend their day “antiquing” by the sea. The newest edition to the corner is Designer’s Consignment, who opened their doors in early 2014. Designer’s Consignment is an upscale home furnishings consignment store. They only sell quality new, gently used and vintage items for the home. Walking into this store, you are welcomed by the smell of Mahogany and the warmth of the many pieces of art on the walls. Renee Alison, the store owner, is an A.S.I.D. interior designer and certified antiques dealer with an obvious eye for design and sophistication. Whether you’re looking for that perfectly handcrafted bedside table, or an in home consultation to revive those 18th century dining room chairs the cat seems to be all too fond of, you will find it on the corner of Sunset Cliff’s and Newport in Ocean Beach.


avatar John July 6, 2014 at 6:27 pm

I didn’t think we needed another antique store but hey, what do I know, I didn’t know people pay “consultants”to come to their home and give them advice on what to do with 200 year old chairs. That one kind of baffles me, are they offering a refurbishing service for people’s antiques, or just advising them that they need a refurbishing service? If it’s the latter I believe the client base must be thin since folly like that that costs stupid money can only be afforded by people who didn’t get that money by being stupid.
For $20 I’ll come by and rub a little old english oil on ’em and tell them where my Grandma buys her doily cloth and hell I’m pretty good with a sewing machine, they can pick out some goofy pattern like ducks or somethin’ and I’ll whip up a butt cushion or two. I’m not certified but my friends say I’m certifiable.
(Just funnin’ with you. But really, another antique store? What’s wrong with thrift stores?)


avatar buc July 7, 2014 at 3:12 pm

many of the stores are all owned by one family…the mallorys…plus much of the merchandise are “pulled windows” or other older stuff (do not want to say junk) that are not actually antiques…many experts are not fooled…plus the cafe and coffee shops are not fooled also, they will charge an additional dollar for the breakfast “specials” on saturdays and sundays…just letting you know…


avatar Aging Hippie June 17, 2014 at 6:58 am


Somebody explain to me, if it’s on the official stationary of the office of the District Attorney, how is it not public business and not subject to the open records law?


avatar NikiV June 29, 2014 at 4:10 am

Just sending a peace sign out to everyone and invite everyone to the occupy national gathering which is happening in our State’s Capitol 31Jul14-3Aug14. #99Rise is sitting in at the Capitol already to #GetMoneyOutOfPolitics and the Summer in Sacramento is just getting started. If you think you know occupy, rethink it because its been working on itself! Think: #UrbanBurningMan meets an Activist Convention and connect and unite; bring your biggest concern to the State Capitol and have a whole lot of brothers and sisters there to amplify your voice.

Me, I’m going on that little issue called “Real Nuclear Waste Confidence” (#RNWC #GlobalZero) and our two plants sitting on our coasts. Join the tribe and help us #ShutdownDiabloCanyon and get the nuclear waste at both facilities managed in the way We The People need to have it taken care of, away from our coastline. For more 411 http://www.interoccupy.net/natgat2014 =) <3nikiV


avatar Aging Hippie July 7, 2014 at 9:21 am

So I notice it’s now OB Rag policy to permit personal insults and epithets if the person being insulted is in the minority, and then quickly close the comments before that person can defend himself against insult or false accusation. This is in addition to the OB Rag policy of changing its editorial stance to whatever is politically expedient, and abusing its role to make unilateral statements without reference to facts or evidence.

Rag is a good name for this P.O.S.


avatar Debra July 7, 2014 at 4:32 pm

I went by Stump’s Market, this past Saturday (7/5) and noticed that they now have a recycling center, in the west corner of the parking lot, near the cupcake shop.


avatar newbecean July 7, 2014 at 6:42 pm

I moved to OB last August so this was my first July 4th here. I’d been following the whole marshmallow situation with interest, but the only disturbing thing I saw when I came down to the beach just before the fireworks began was that someone (I assume by accident?) shot two illegal fireworks INTO the crowd at the beach. This was somewhere near-ish the bathrooms at the end of Brighton. First, one went north along the line of houses going toward Brighton. Then several fireworks went up from the same location, but one fired sideways probably 30-40 feet directly into the crowd towards the water, perhaps 5 minutes before the official pier fireworks began. I was close enough to see it happen but far enough away that I couldn’t tell whether it landed on anybody. Do you guys know if anyone was hurt by that incident? Is that a common problem?? I was really horrified!


avatar Aging Hippie July 23, 2014 at 4:30 pm

I’ve received a response to my protest against the CVS liquor license. However, it is likely that CVS or the state will request a hearing, which will be during regular work hours, so I will be unable to attend. I can appoint someone else to represent me if there is a hearing.

If there is anyone else who has filed a protest against the CVS liquor license, or missed the chance and would like to help take action on it now, and you can be available during business hours to attend a hearing, please post a reply here and I will provide further information.



avatar Louisa October 7, 2014 at 5:02 pm

San Diego Unified School District has begun using its own drug sniffing dog. I have no problem with drug searches in schools. However, I’m concerned about this particular dog. It is reported to be very young, 19 months old. It appears quite tense and disconnected from its handler. I note it is using a prong training collar. I think it’s inappropriate for a sniffing dog to wear such a collar during searches. I also think it’s inappropriate for a poorly trained dog to be working in public spaces.

So far, no reports I’ve seen discuss the dog’s training, experience or history with its handler. If they had to get a drug sniffing dog, why couldn’t they have chosen a nice, social Beagle named Snoopy or something? The breed choice and the name of the dog were extremely ill-advised. A German Shepherd Dog named Blitz? Give me a break! This adds to the impression of militarization of the District.

I wish San Diego reporters would dig a little here. I’d like to know more about the background and training of this dog and its handler.


avatar John October 21, 2014 at 1:24 pm

See the youtube video by barry cooper “never get busted” on how they select dogs for this duty and you will know why you will never see snoopy sniffing for drugs.
In short a high strung dog is the type they use because they put dope in a ball and play ball with the dog for a week.
They need the kind of dog who wants to play ball so long it drives you nuts.
See the video you will understand and its got some great tips. The best is the one about stew and dogs sense of smell.


avatar Anthony Studebaker October 7, 2014 at 8:27 pm

To make this sniffer dog go away all the people of CA. have do, is do what the people of COLORADO-WASHINGTON STATE DID>>>>>>>>>LEGALIZE POT


avatar Joel Thompson October 11, 2014 at 1:31 pm

Hello! I am putting on an event for a school project in OB, essentially to raise donations. Those tangible and intangible, whether it be canned food or blankets for shelters or just getting people information on how they can get involved with the local community. So I really need info on what’s needed and where. please feel free to contact me at thomp131@cougars.csusm.edu or 951-830-0003. ANy advise greatly appreciated
hakuna matata,


avatar boston mike December 3, 2014 at 10:56 pm

Hi. I was just curious if anyone else in OB is questioning all of the airplanes coming in from the west for landings. It seems to have just started this past weekend. I checked the radar online and all flights are going around downtown circling over the pacific and coming in low, right over Newport Ave. There must be 30 planes an hour sometimes and they keep coming deep into the night. Does this happen every year? Or is this a new flight path? If anyone has an answer I would be greatly appreciative.
Boston Mike


avatar Christo December 4, 2014 at 4:45 am

Normal approach path is from the east, however when visibility drops to less than 2 miles it gets reversed and flights come in over the ocean. This typically occurs during fog and storms.


avatar Amanda December 3, 2014 at 11:11 pm

Different weather phenomena affects which direction planes land, and that’s what’s been happening the last couple of days. Los Angeles has been landing to east as well. It doesn’t happen often because our weather so lovely, so we can’t complain too much : )


avatar daniel smiechowski December 8, 2014 at 10:36 am

Society’s Pressure Cooker: Conflict and Order
The recent social unrest in a place called America is as old as time itself. Racial tensions in Ferguson, Missouri on the heels of the Michael Brown shooting by a white police officer spilled onto the streets of San Diego. The results of a tea pot left unattended.
Many Clairemont folks missed the point in railing against the protesters. A small group of UCSD Students who chose to block the north bound lanes of Interstate 5 were signaled out as being highly disruptive. Geeze, is that not the point! Are we not blinded in not seeing the forest for the trees? Have we lost all concept of the greater whole? Martin Luther King once said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.
Commentators on local social media ran the gamut from the self centered to the absurd. One response that particularly struck a chord was by a gentleman that stated, “The protesters had caused us law abiding citizens to be late for work.” Is this a statement of an evolved human being? Did it ever occur to this simple minded fellow that there exist three rails of human behavior being morality, ethics and of course the incorporeity of law itself? Does America’s vast middle class silent majority really believe in the birth of justice through indifference?
When the tables are turned, and the control and order folks are met squarely with injustice, ever see how they come off the rails. Every psychologist and psychiatrist in America understands that everyone has a breaking point. Our society is no different. Most people understand the value of sobriety checkpoints yet isn’t this some form of organized protest (police power) in reverse that is to put some motorists back on the wagon. Why is the peaceful protest of injustice any different?
Consider that during the last one hundred years in this country, we have had conflict and concomitant social unrest with child labor laws, women’s right to vote, Civil War veterans march on Washington, civil rights, abortion, Vietnam, Wall Street and thousands of more protests on all sorts of issues. My belief is that most Americans just conveniently forget history and fail to see the lessons of the past. Either that or the shallowness of their everyday lives has muted creative impulse. The piano man represents conflict, progression and creativity. And one final note, is the dropping of bombs at thirty thousand feet shown on a jet’s video monitor a form of organized control? I think not.
Be nice, do good deeds and don’t be a stranger as we at The Clairemont Times value your participation. Daniel J. Smiechowski


avatar buc December 8, 2014 at 2:20 pm

hey…wasn’t the Christmas parade fantastic…we walked in the sunset cliffs animal hospital (all with red sweatshirts and the doctor and his staff were fabulous…really “paws” i tive energy and just great to have to have so much fun in o b…thanks…roxy and buc


avatar Anthony Mournian December 12, 2014 at 3:08 pm

“Jones, a 33-year-old student at San Diego State University, said Owen’s statement is an example of the “bigotry” and “racial discrimination” that he and other members of the group are fighting against.”

December 12, 2014

Dear Councilmember Zapf,

We have met several times at the Tecolote Nature Center. I have enjoyed our contacts, however brief. We share a heritage; we are both Hispanics – or at least half Hispanic.

Perhaps that’s why I am distressed by remarks by one of your staff members whom I hold in high regard for her ability to get things done. The First Amendment, which includes the Freedom of Speech, the Freedom to Assemble, the Freedom to express one’s point of view, and the Freedom of Religion, is at the very heart of our democracy. It includes not only the right to say things which please us or please others, but the right to say things which are unpleasant, though they be true.

As you must know, having grown up with a foot in both worlds, Latino and “white,” there are many times and many situations when we, Hispanics, Latinos, Mexicans, and Brown Brothers, are made to feel exceptionally uncomfortable by epithets hurled at us and our families simply by virtue of our birth.

As you also know, arrests and imprisonment of Blacks, Browns and other minorities far outnumber the arrests of ‘whites.’ Police mistreatment, if not police brutality, is far more often directed at your people, my people, our people, than it is directed at “whites.” Far more “minorities” are killed by the police than “whites.”

So when Blacks, Browns, Latinos, Mexicans, Hispanics, Native Americans, African Americans, or Mexican Americans stand up to be counted and protest as the group did at yesterday’s Inauguration ceremony, they have good reason to do so. They can be faulted for many things, perhaps, but they should NOT be faulted for expressing their points of view or for exercising their First Amendment Rights.

Most certainly they should not be subjected to “I’d like to shoot them,” or similar racially charged remarks. The funny thing is, to threaten someone with serious bodily harm is NOT protected speech, and is NOT a permitted expression under the First Amendment. Your staff person was WAY out of line to call the protesters, “Effing Idiots,” and absolutely off base to say, “I’d like to shoot them.” That’s what happened in Ferguson, and that’s why the group was protesting yesterday. Someone, Officer Darren Wilson, DID shoot someone, and look what it got him, or the young man he shot, or the City of Ferguson, or the nation of the United States.

I realize my letter speaks to a “personnel issue,” and you will not reply. I don’t expect a reply because I respect your staff member’s right to have this handled internally by your offices. But I DO expect it will be addressed, and at the very least your staff person will receive a detailed briefing on how to respond to similar situations in the future.

Please note, I am NOT suggesting your staff person be fired. But I am suggesting, I am strongly urging she be counseled, and she be educated on the fact the First Amendment rights apply to ALL of us, and those rights apply to speech which makes us uncomfortable as well as that which makes us feel good.

Please forward a copy of this message to the staff member who is alleged to have made the remarks. Thank you.

Very truly yours,

Anthony Mournian
Attorney at Law


avatar buc January 2, 2015 at 11:30 am

hey anthony…enjoyed your letter, yet i believe zapf’s assistant should be fired…no room for incensitive ignorance (at least think before you speak)…thanks


avatar Ben Haith January 2, 2015 at 8:33 am

People can donate two dollar bills to the Justice Reform and Occupy Wall Street movements on a regular basis. These organizations can make the two dollar bill a part of their fundraising strategies for social change in the United States. I will send two dollar bills to these organizations regularly. Thank you for your attention.


avatar joe tucker January 14, 2015 at 1:48 pm

Several things about police that few seem to realize:–
1st, they are by & large the hired guns to protect the haves against the have-nots. Thus, the usual sight of 3 police cars surrounding some 1 or 2 poor persons.
2nd, the usual personalities that go in for police work tend to HAVE to be right about any- & everything, like to enforce that characteristic by FORCE, think in stereotypes, & have extremely limited knowledge of real human behaviors & motivations.
No wonder they’re always hitting or shooting poor people or “colored” people, almost always with multiple gunshots aiming to kill.
BTW, I’ve never met a person good enough to have a gun, including myself. & the 2nd Amendment is NOT about individuals having guns, but about state militias.


avatar Angela ulrich January 25, 2015 at 9:35 am

As a resident of Adobe falls I can tell you since several reviews have been done for our “falls” things have really gone down hill. I know the residents wouldn’t mind sharing the “private ” property but when people come and leave their trash, cigarette butts, speed down our streets or sit in their cars and smoke weed WE Have a Problem! And yes it is considered “private” property which is clearly noted by the many many signs and chain link fences. In addition, the stream that all the A -holes trample thru and leave their starbucks containers to get to the ow trash filled falls is considered “protected” by the EPA because of bird nesting. I know this because I HAD to pay the EPA to have a tense built while work was done in our private property. There is a small area considered “open space “… Which is basically the litter filled road you walk up. I feel like the people of OB can appreciate the need to keep nature protected.. The OB locals are serious about that. Well the people of Adobe falls like our peace and we like our neighborhoods clean. If you come hear please don’t speed down our streets ( many of us have small children), please wait till you get to your dorm to pee ( pretty sick of smelling urine), please take your beer cans, starbucks,. Cigarette butts the F with you. Please read the signs that say NO parking and NOT a thru street, and stay the hell out of my backyard.. It’s not a path!!
If you decide the trespassing ticket is worth it, then come and please be respectful the area. You Cannot access the falls from Waring Road ( despite what GPS tells you) It’s a dead end with a big fence.


avatar Zan Ellis February 15, 2015 at 10:41 am

Letter for Bob Dorn via this publication:
Is this the Bob Dorn, editor of the ASU State Press in mid-1960s?

Zandra Ellis


avatar Bob Thomas February 23, 2015 at 6:44 pm

Hi O.B. Rag:
Thanks for the great article on O.B. cottages. Do you know how I would get in touch with Kathy Blavatt? I have three super old, shake shingle cottages over here on Long Branch that I would love to try and get some info on. Thanks for any help!


avatar Mike Badzioch February 23, 2015 at 9:07 pm

To sign a PETITION to the President entitled “Stop Supporting Fast Track and the Trans-Pacific Partnership: They are undemocratic and bad for America”

Go to: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-supporting-fast-track-and-trans-pacific-partnership-they-are-undemocratic-and-bad-america/gs1bNFzf


avatar Carolyn March 3, 2015 at 9:18 pm

Greetings! I have an unfortunate border crossing experience to share and am hoping that someone out there may have been crossing and took a photo. I am a 54 year old white haired woman and my friend is a 48 year old brown haired woman.
Around 4 pm, March 2nd, my friend and I were finally “the next car” in-line for the Otay border crossing. We had just finished a 3 week camping trip in Baja Mexico. After spending at least 2 hours in line, moving at a snail’s pace, we finally were seeing the light and excited to be moving through to our VRBO in Huntington Beach. The guard asked for our passports, and then asked if I had a front license plate. (large custom bumpers have kept me form attaching it) My friend reached into the glovebox and handed me the plate. The guard then gave me a concerning look and told me that he didn’t need it. My friend and I suddenly saw 6 guards coming out of a building, in single file. They trotted behind my van and we thought they were troubling the car behind us. My friend said, “No, they are here for us!”, as she noticed a guard with a pistol drawn in her sideview mirror. Then all hell broke loose. I was being ordered to “put my hands up” and get out of the vehicle. I then was instructed to walk backwards, several feet, before being ordered to kneel on the ground after which I was handcuffed. I asked if this was a drill and I was abruptly told to “stop talking.” My friend was then ordered to do the same. The six officers continued to have guns drawn on us and my VW Camper van. They were screaming at us and the van, asking if there was any other occupants in the vehicle. We were both carted off to a building, still arms behind backs in hand cuffs. My friend later told me that one of the officers told her that it was my I that they had flagged. My name was similar to a woman who was wanted for transporting guns across the border. Both my friend and I were searched, clothes on, but in a degrading manner that involved palpating under our bras and firmly patting down our private area. My friend was reduced to tears. We were detained for another hour, me having to get finger printed and photo taken.
It was explained to us that Americans try to cross with weapons, and this is a very serious matter. What we both don’t understand, is that after the Federal agents realized that I was not who they were looking for, why were still treated so harshly? Why was my friend basically strip searched as well? We are upstanding American citizens, but we were treated like criminals. We are both very traumatized by this unfortunate event. Thankfully, the wonderment and peacefulness of our vacation overpowered this episode, and we both still are in love with Baja. If anyone has a photo of this horrific event, I would greatly appreciate it.


avatar Frank Gormlie March 16, 2015 at 11:12 am

From Vets for Peace: Massacre a reminder we must be vigilant
March 16 marks the 47th anniversary of the systematic slaughter of 500 men, women and children by a group of American soldiers in a tiny Vietnamese hamlet called My Lai. This action, once and for all, wiped away the myth that the United States is a “morally superior country.”
The young men involved in this carnage are, today, in the age bracket of late 60s to early 70s and you can be sure that most of them suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder and/or moral injury.
Let’s hold a vision that someday soon our nation will learn that endless wars are not the answer, but especially, once and for all, stop sending our young people into situations that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
Jack Doxey
Veterans for Peace


avatar LB March 23, 2015 at 12:18 pm

Hello – I was curious as to a follow up on the article written April 1, 2012 titled “City Council to Announce Plans for Two Homeless Shelters in Point Loma”. I can’t find any additional information online. Has anyone kept up on this story by chance?



avatar Daisy June 6, 2015 at 2:22 pm

April Fools! Squashed, likely, along with the September 10, 2014 town council homeless resolution. How about the 1-2-3 January 23rd 2015 homeless count while the homeless/traveler sweep was in full force? Any reports on how the count will affect funding? I doubt you’ll find much of anything published post January 1, 2015 of any consequence or concern for the homeless.


avatar Barls Charkley March 29, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Has anyone investigated the perpetual pool of water at the intersection of Saratoga and Cable? I’m curious why the city hasn’t addressed this, both for waste of precious water as well as the possibility of sinkholes. Perhaps the fire hydrant in front of the school beneath the street?? Scary. No matter what time of day or night it is, there’s always a pool of water there.


avatar studebaker April 25, 2015 at 11:23 am

This documentary film was made in OB? http://www.evillaw.tk


avatar Jamie May 22, 2015 at 2:47 pm

In keeping with your stated goals starting this blog:
“When we first started this blog, we felt that we needed “to rebuild a sense of community, not only on the neighborhood level, but also amongst those of a kindred spirit.”

I wanted to let you know about a new program coming to San Diego, part of the global Transition Network called Transition Streets. It is a grass-roots program that facilitates neighbors to help neighbors to learn more about sustainability, resilience, peak oil, climate change and how they can save money, reduce their carbon footprint, and create a tighter more supportive community that can better weather the coming instability. I am working on our 501c3 application and assembling a steering committee to co-create a Transition Initiative for all of the San Diego region. Check out our fledgling website: http://www.TransitionSD.org and please get in touch if you have any questions.
Jamie Edmonds
Transition San Diego


avatar Micporte May 24, 2015 at 8:15 am

Hallelujah! Another urban street designer with a 501(c)3 and a plan to “fix” us…
Do we do the ” transition” streets or the “complete” streets first?


avatar CliffHanger June 1, 2015 at 9:20 pm

I had one thing, now two.
1) Can this section be reversed, so the “Leave a Comment” and most recent contributions are on the top of the page instead of the bottom?
2) Now the real reason, as an FYI to what’s up with our lovely streets. Over here at the intersection of Froude and Orchard, we’ve had a water leak under the street for more than a month now. There’s enough water under the road surface that it’s leaking through the pavement. This has been reported to the City for a month now without anything being done to fix it. They’ve come out and looked couple times. I reported the City, to itself, as a water leak violator. Didn’t help. We’d all have been fined for the water loss by now. Any insight or recommended next steps? Reporting to the City is going nowhere.


avatar Daisy June 5, 2015 at 11:03 am

Gentlemen, if you will forgive me for barging in on your conversation concerning the leak I hope I have some useful insight and suggestions for steps you may take to fix the leak, promptly resolving the problem.

I probably ought not give advice really but would like to contribute and help. So here goes.

Step 1) Add 13 packages of strawberry gelatin to the water pooling from the leak. No, only kidding, that wouldn’t be much fun without contraband marshmallows. Skip to step 2. (Seriously, it would be a bummer to get caught, especially with marshmallows.)

Step 2) (Joking, maybe?) Talk to the dude whose apparent drunk ass recently drove his beautiful boat onto dog beach, then, according to the news, managed to magically “pass” (all but the on scene) sobriety tests by the time the tests were administered. No charges! I’m glad the dude didn’t get hurt or hurt anyone else and that he has enough money so as to avoid having to endure all of the DUI charge nonsense. He seems to have some serious pull though so maybe he can get the ball rolling on repairs? If that doesn’t work proceed to step 3.

Step 3) Incite a “call the police” campaign (totally kidding friends) via the mainstream and social media. Use photo software to splice together photos of unsightly homeless residents (already conveniently posted online by people we have forgiven and love anyway) with photos of the pooling water so that it looks like poor people are washing each other’s feet in the water from the leak. Print up shirts and stickers of the photos and send enmass to business community stakeholders along with a petition demanding a community “walkability” study. It would work but involves some deception, better skip to step 4.

4) Peacably assemble a group of people at the leak site and meditate. Envision the leak is already repaired. Do, however, be forewarned that you will likely be under surveillance (monitoring for “unconventional” behavior in public) and be ready to present your identification to prove that you live in a house / cottage / bungalow / apartment / condominium / mansion on the hill as it is sometimes no longer possible to move about freely without having to present your papers. Safer yet, gather in private for the meditation, but still you may be under surveillance there too. If meditation does not prove fruitful, there is always step 5.

Step 5) (This one involves risk of incarcetation) Fly some cardboard like the homeless do. You will need a big piece of cardboard and a good new giant black magic marker. Write on the cardboard something like “FIX THE LEAK, FOR CONSERVATION SAKE!” Be creative and make a little bit of noise. Collect donations in a pan to contribute to the cost of repairs.

This is truly just for fun and hope it provides some kind of relief. All the best.


avatar buc June 6, 2015 at 11:23 am

hey o b bicyclists…this week was BERNIE’S BIKES 26th anniversary…starting many years ago on voltaire, now on cable and newport…go say happy anniversary to roger and yosh…maybe bring a gift certificate or some sweet treat…they have been such a joy to o b (loaning out tools, fixing bikes for next to nothing, always there)..please show them some appreciation…just think if they were not there?


avatar Nanci Kelly June 6, 2015 at 2:21 pm

Hello Frank and the OB Rag staff – The OB Planning Board received the following notice about trash can replacements so I’m trying to get the word out. Forwarding it to you in the event that you can, and would want to, include it in the Rag.
Thanks. -Nanci Kelly

Community Leaders,

Councilmember Zapf has partnered with the Environmental Services Department to make a limited number of trash cans available for District 2 Residents. The deadline to request a replacement trash can is Friday June 12, 2015. First come, first served.

If your black trash can is broken, cracked, or taped up to keep it from falling apart, contact Councilmember Lorie Zapf’s office to see about getting a free replacement. If you are in need of a replacement, do the following:

1. Take a picture of your broken trash can
2. Take a picture of the serial number on the trash can
3. Name of Residents, Address, Phone Number (e-mail if possible)
4. A brief description of the issue with that trash can
5. E-mail this info to: LorieZapf@sandiego.gov / Subject: Broken Trash Can


avatar Celeste June 18, 2015 at 1:31 am

Did anyone noticed a weird smell in the water at Dog Beach today? I went surfing at Dog Beach in Ocean Beach today and the water really smelled like sewage. When the waves broke I would get this whiff of it and it was really unsettling because I surfed near the pier a couple times this past week and the water was fine. My friend agreed about the smell so we left Dog Beach and went swimming at No Surf at Sunset Cliffs and the water was really nice over there. Does anyone know what could’ve caused the sewage smell? Maybe something having to do with the river outlet? It didn’t smell like dog waste. I’m wondering if it’s always been like this or if this is new. Thanks!



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