Fluoridation in San Diego Water Begins December 22nd

by on December 9, 2010 · 27 comments

in Environment, Health, Popular, San Diego

by Grok Surf”s San Diego

(City of San Diego Public Utilities Department press release dated Dec. 6, 2010)

The City of San Diego is scheduled to begin fluoridating drinking water beginning Dec. 22, 2010. All residents in the City of San Diego, as well as residents of the cities of Coronado, Del Mar and Imperial Beach will receive fluoridated water.

San Diego will supplement naturally?occurring fluoride and imported fluoridated water in our drinking water to meet the standards established by the California Department of Public Health.

California state law requires water agencies with more than 10,000 water service connections (which includes the City of San Diego) fluoridate their drinking water supplies. However, a public water system is exempt from fluoridating until sufficient outside funding is available. Both the California Attorney General and the San Diego City Attorney’s Office opined that when sufficient funding became available, San Diego Municipal Code Section 67.0101, which prohibits the City from fluoridation, would be preempted by state law.

In June 2008, the City Council accepted an offer of funding from the First 5 Commission of San Diego County for the purpose of fluoridating the City’s public water supply. The Commission’s offer of up to $3,927,016 is for full funding of the capital costs and up to two years of operating and maintenance expenses necessary to implement fluoridation at each of the City’s three water treatment plants.

For more information, visit the City of San Diego’s web page on “Water Fluoridation” at http://www.sandiego.gov/water/quality/fluoridation.shtml or call the City’s Public Utilities Department at 619?515?3500. Customers who have health questions should consult with their medical or dental practitioner.

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avatar OB Dude December 9, 2010 at 4:45 pm

That sucks!

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avatar Sarah December 9, 2010 at 5:29 pm

People drink the tap water here?

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avatar bcsy December 9, 2010 at 10:29 pm

maybe you don’t know any poor folks but yes, many, many people do and much of the world would drink our tap water in a second and be grateful for it. also, I’m not poor and drink tapwater.

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avatar Sarah December 9, 2010 at 10:45 pm

Oh, I know lots of poor folks. Or I should say, I know lots of broke folks.

I just hate the taste of the water here, ’cause I’m spoiled rotten when it comes to tap water after spending 25 years in the Pacific NW.

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avatar Marisag December 9, 2010 at 10:23 pm

I drink the damn tap water. I’m not happy about this… yellow teeth, here we come!

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avatar bcsy December 9, 2010 at 10:30 pm

the yellow is from the meth, not tap water or flouride.

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avatar OB Dude December 9, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Diane5150 thank you for this information.

So many people have tried to stop this nonsense of floridation….

We all should have clean and safe drinking water….and now we are going to get poisoned! Not mention this costly endeavor at a time when government is broke. Anyone up for standing on OB street corners on 12/21 with signs letting people know?

The info below comes from our city’s website:

California state law requires water agencies with more than 10,000 water service connections (which includes the City of San Diego) fluoridate their drinking water supplies. However, a public water system is exempt from fluoridating until sufficient outside funding is available. Both the California Attorney General and the City Attorney’s Office opined that when sufficient funding became available, San Diego Municipal Code Section 67.0101, which prohibits the City from fluoridation, would be preempted by state law.

Currently, the City does not fluoridate its water. However, the City does receive fluoridated treated water from the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California through the San Diego County Water Authority. The City water supply consists of approximately 9 percent of imported treated water. Because this is only a small portion of the City water supply, not all areas of the City currently receive fluoridated water. In addition, due to seasonal demands and operational changes, fluoride levels will vary throughout the system over time. The box at the right allows you to determine if your neighborhood receives fluoridated water.

In June 2008, the City Council accepted an offer of funding from the First 5 Commission of San Diego County for the purpose of fluoridating the City’s public water supply. The Commission’s offer of up to $3,927,016 is for full funding of the capital costs and up to two years of operating and maintenance expenses necessary to implement fluoridation at each of the City’s three water treatment plants. As a result of state law and the availability of funding, the City is scheduled to begin fluoridating its public water supply by December 2010.

Here is some more propoganda http://www.mwdh20.org/fluoridation/FluoridationFactSheet.pdf

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avatar bcsy December 12, 2010 at 5:51 pm

you are very misinformed and don’t understand the subtleties of basic chemistry. I love a good conspiracy as much as the next guy but it has to make a little sense.

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avatar Diane5150 December 9, 2010 at 11:02 pm

All banality aside, this is a tragedy. Flouride is a poison. Flouridation is another scam being perpetuated on the public by the nuclear industry. I am a fibromyalgia patient and I discovered a cause and effect link between flouride and fibomyalgia. I have been taking the mineral boron which neutralizes the cumulative effects of flouride. After three months I have significantly reduced the symptoms of fibromyalgia.

Gulf War veterans upon return from the war developed fibromyalgia as part of the Gulf War Syndrome. Researchers discovered a link between Cipro and Gulf War Syndrome. Cipro is a flouridated drug.

This poison has no place in our drinking water.

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avatar Brian December 9, 2010 at 11:48 pm

Why does the nuclear industry want people to consume fluoride?

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avatar Diane5150 December 10, 2010 at 12:07 am

Hi Bryan, this link can give you more information.

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avatar Diane5150 December 10, 2010 at 12:17 am

Here are some basics facts about flouride courtesy of the Lexicon.

Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUORIDE) – (Yes, folks the same Sarin Nerve Gas that terrorists released on a crowded Japanese subway train!). Let me repeat: the truth the American public needs to understand is the fact that Sodium Fluoride is nothing more (or less) than a hazardous waste by-product of the nuclear and aluminum industries. In addition to being the primary ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, it is also a main ingredient in anesthetic, hypnotic, and psychiatric drugs as well as military NERVE GAS!

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avatar RB December 10, 2010 at 8:41 am

Diane…Have you ever taken a chemistry class?
Do you know the difference between an element and a compound?
Do you understand sodium fluoride’s properties are very similar to sodium chloride (table salt)?
Comparing sodium fluoride to Sarin gas is fear mongering and alchemy.

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avatar Diane5150 December 10, 2010 at 7:19 pm

Fear mongering, alchemy? Table salt can be toxic when consumed excessively. If you are so smart, please enlighten us with your knowledge and experience.

There is no reason to make this personal.

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avatar RB December 11, 2010 at 12:57 pm

The toxicity of Sarin gas is dependent on the structure of the complete compound and its binding to a important enzyme. It is similar to the more common binding and failure to release of cyanide or carbon monoxide with hemoglobin. The toxic Sarin compound is equally dependent upon every element making up its structure. The element fluoride is no more responsible for Sarin being toxic than are the other elements carbon, oxygen, phosphorous, and hydrogen. Saying an element should be excluded from water because it is a an element of Sarin gas would lead to a conclusion that hydrogen and oxygen should be excluded form water (H2O) because they are elements of the compound Sarin.

Table salt and the element chloride are the best example of what to expect with fluoride in water. I and many people reduce their salt intake to control blood pressure so even table salt can be an issue. If there is a harmful effect due to fluoride, you would expect it to reveal itself in competition to the body’s use of chloride or with binding to important trace elements for biological function. In fact, high fluoride levels in the blood can bind and precipitate (form a solid) with calcium in the blood. I would not be surprised if fluoride in a similar way might disrupts other trace elements need for enzyme and biological activity. Certain people and certain organs may be more sensitive to fluoride.

It seems, the most practical reason for not now adding fluoride to water is the readily available fluoride in mouthwashes labeled as anti-cavity. This is what I use with my children.

As for the experience for these conclusions, I have a couple of science degrees, my BA is chemistry, I complete several biochem/molecular biology classes at UCSD just for fun, and have twenty years experienced in medical research.

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avatar Diane5150 December 11, 2010 at 10:32 pm

Thanks RB. I appreciate your expertise. Will reverse osmosis or distillation remove floiride?

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avatar RB December 12, 2010 at 9:41 am

The short answer is it is a lot more expensive to remove small amounts of fluoride from water than it is to add it to water. These methods should be viewed as good ways to dramatically reduce large amounts of fluoride salts, and many other large fluorinated compounds from water but poor method for removing small amounts (trace amounts) of fluoride. The small amounts of fluoride being added to drinking water and the reactivity of this compound means these methods will not eliminate all of the fluoride from the water, which is your goal. In the lab we would use a de-ionization system. If you really want to avoid fluoride once it is added to the water, use a well or use bottle water.

IMO, The way to fight fluoride addition to water is documentation of health problems in communities with fluoride vs those without fluoride.

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avatar bcsy December 12, 2010 at 5:54 pm

hype/passion combined with misinformation makes any issue personal. many agree to disagree but the perpetuation of bs is personal and immoral

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avatar Diane5150 December 9, 2010 at 11:36 pm

This is an excellent link providing comprehensive information on the negative health effects of flouride.

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avatar OB DUDE December 10, 2010 at 12:37 am

I haven’t done much research on water fluoridation other than reading it’s not good for your thyroid gland! Can it be filtered out, boiled out or what can be done to remove, reduce what comes out of my faucet?

Thanks for any advice.

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avatar Diane5150 December 10, 2010 at 7:22 pm

It cannot be boiled out. Filtration is possible, but when choosing a filtration system, flouride must be specified due to the size of the flouride particulate.

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avatar OB Dude December 11, 2010 at 8:51 am

Thanks for the info…I will save up some $$$ and get a filtration system.

Anybody out there in OB land that has any suggestions on what to buy or if you are in the business, please post!

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avatar RB December 11, 2010 at 1:16 pm

In general, distillation (boiling) is used to remove large quantities of an impurity and organics. Filtration is used to remove large particles (micron size, bacteria size, very small for us but large on the chemical scale) and particles have size and charge. The complete removal of trace elements and metals requires an ion exchange system.

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avatar tj December 10, 2010 at 5:47 am

“Nanny State” mentality strikes again.

We’ll do something to help your teeth (at the expense of your other organs).

Duh.

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avatar Mike D December 14, 2010 at 3:44 am

Well , at least the containers it comes in will be ” marked Flouride .” Makes it easier , when the time comes , for The Great Culling . Humans need water , and be it bottled or tap , we are going to drink it . We have to .
AIDS didn’t work out as planned . Lots of folks are hesitant to voluntarily be vaccinated . Water ? Therein lay our Fate .

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avatar Diane5150 January 7, 2011 at 7:13 pm

Well, well, well, the federal government today announced new flouride standards for municipal drinking water, saying that children were developing flourosis, a degenerative bone disease which happens to show up visually in the teeth.

Interrrrreeeesting!

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avatar Rafael Navarro March 20, 2014 at 1:03 pm

You are right on! Very comprehensive article on San Diego Tap water. Let me know what you think of my article and links http://www.la-jolla-house.com/san-diego-tap-water-quality-and-why-you-should-filter/

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