Comments on: Summarizing the great graffiti debate … http://obrag.org/?p=8533 Grassroots and Progressive views on local, national and world news Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:39:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dave Gilbert http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-19038 Dave Gilbert Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:29:03 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-19038 "Young at Art" That's beautiful Kim! I see your good work all over town too, thanks for being involved! “Young at Art” That’s beautiful Kim! I see your good work all over town too, thanks for being involved!

]]> By: Gary Gilmore http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-19031 Gary Gilmore Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:01:55 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-19031 Hello Kim, Thank you for thinking that I had wisdom and that I was willing to get into action. While my wisdom is a subject of debate I am indeed willing to participate. The person with the wisdom and the initiative is Jon Carr. He’s putting this together and I’m sure he’ll appreciate your involvement. As one of Ocean Beach’s foremost muralists your involvement will speak volumes to the graffiti situation. You and Jon will work well together. Cheers! Hello Kim, Thank you for thinking that I had wisdom and that I was willing to get into action. While my wisdom is a subject of debate I am indeed willing to participate. The person with the wisdom and the initiative is Jon Carr. He’s putting this together and I’m sure he’ll appreciate your involvement. As one of Ocean Beach’s foremost muralists your involvement will speak volumes to the graffiti situation. You and Jon will work well together. Cheers!

]]> By: Kim Howell http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-19024 Kim Howell Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:21:37 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-19024 Thanks Gary, for your wisdom and willingness to get into action on the tagging. As a local artist, and devout OBecian, who walks frequently, as most of us do, either along the cliffs or the neighborhoods, it has been a huge pain in my heart to see the tagging wherever it lands. Often I have been hired to paint a mural to deter the taggers....and it has worked! I also repainted a fully tagged wall(N/C) at the end of Sunsett Cliff and Pt. Loma Ave. to create a "Kids Community Mural Wall". However, my original intention was to clean up and repaint the wall down by the pier, to create a giant mural canvass for the kids of the community attending my Young At Art Center. We were and are STILL willing to take on these kind of projects to clean up and enhance our beautiful little community. Not to mention we can take a bummer situation and turn it into a blessing for all the kids out there who want to paint,while contributing to the arts and esthetics in OB! I was told I would have to go thru the city council on this.....and as I was trying to expedite cleaning a wall for the kids, I went with the first one offered at Sunsett Ciffs and Pt. Loma Ave. at Pt.Loma Gas&Market.They were about to be tickeketed for the tagging on their front wall, and so happily donated the wall for me to clean up for my students. Young at Art Children's Art Center opens this July. In no time at all I'm sure I can get a group of anxious little painters ready to do a community project to "Clean up and Beautify OB" I've done this before, and believe me the kids love it and feel such a sense of pride! Whoever is in charge, and motivated....CONTACT ME! Ciao, Kim Howell/"Artworks"/ Young At Art Childrens Art Center 619-459-1955 Thanks Gary, for your wisdom and willingness to get into action on the tagging. As a local artist, and devout OBecian, who walks frequently, as most of us do, either along the cliffs or the neighborhoods, it has been a huge pain in my heart to see the tagging wherever it lands. Often I have been hired to paint a mural to deter the taggers….and it has worked! I also repainted a fully tagged wall(N/C) at the end of Sunsett Cliff and Pt. Loma Ave. to create a “Kids Community Mural Wall”. However, my original intention was to clean up and repaint the wall down by the pier, to create a giant mural canvass for the kids of the community attending my Young At Art Center. We were and are STILL willing to take on these kind of projects to clean up and enhance our beautiful little community. Not to mention we can take a bummer situation and turn it into a blessing for all the kids out there who want to paint,while contributing to the arts and esthetics in OB! I was told I would have to go thru the city council on this…..and as I was trying to expedite cleaning a wall for the kids, I went with the first one offered at Sunsett Ciffs and Pt. Loma Ave. at Pt.Loma Gas&Market.They were about to be tickeketed for the tagging on their front wall, and so happily donated the wall for me to clean up for my students. Young at Art Children’s Art Center opens this July. In no time at all I’m sure I can get a group of anxious little painters ready to do a community project to “Clean up and Beautify OB” I’ve done this before, and believe me the kids love it and feel such a sense of pride! Whoever is in charge, and motivated….CONTACT ME!
Ciao,
Kim Howell/”Artworks”/ Young At Art Childrens Art Center
619-459-1955

]]> By: Frank Gormlie http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-19010 Frank Gormlie Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:05 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-19010 Gary - Jon C is taking the lead on this; I'm just following orders. Gary – Jon C is taking the lead on this; I’m just following orders.

]]> By: Shawn Conrad http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-19009 Shawn Conrad Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:19:28 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-19009 OK, OK! I surrender. I apologize for sounding negative. I took a walk down Lane's block. It is very well kept and there were no signs of blight. I had to spray paint your neighbors fence, throw cigarette butts around, and relocate some dog doo doo just to make my point. Shame on you Lane. Look what you've done. I am teasing, and I'll see you all early Saturday morning. Frank, have your cell phone on because I am going to start blowing up your phone at 7:01. I love you guys, Shawn OK, OK! I surrender. I apologize for sounding negative.

I took a walk down Lane’s block. It is very well kept and there were no signs of blight.

I had to spray paint your neighbors fence, throw cigarette butts around, and relocate some dog doo doo just to make my point. Shame on you Lane. Look what you’ve done.

I am teasing, and I’ll see you all early Saturday morning. Frank, have your cell phone on because I am going to start blowing up your phone at 7:01.

I love you guys,

Shawn

]]> By: Gary Gilmore http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-18986 Gary Gilmore Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:55:15 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-18986 Frank, what time and where would be a good place to meet? Frank, what time and where would be a good place to meet?

]]> By: lane tobias http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-18983 lane tobias Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:38:08 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-18983 bravo jon! bravo jon!

]]> By: Editor http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-18981 Editor Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:52:31 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-18981 Jon's right. Anyone interested in joining the graffiti-paint-out and litter patrol this Saturday, contact us at obragblog@gmail.com or thru this comment section, leave your contact info, and we'll help coordinate the cleaning party. Jon’s right. Anyone interested in joining the graffiti-paint-out and litter patrol this Saturday, contact us at obragblog@gmail.com or thru this comment section, leave your contact info, and we’ll help coordinate the cleaning party.

]]> By: jon http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-18980 jon Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:51:01 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-18980 I just wanted to add, I don't think threats of bodily harm against the taggers is a good idea. Funny to joke about, but in reality, not good. I like Lane's idea about trying to organize a more sanctioned graffiti art type of event. This issue should be tackled on multiple levels. There is not just one simple solution as we can attest to from the past 100 comments on this board. So if you see tagging on your street either paint it out or report it to the business that's been tagged so they can paint it out. The taggers are marking their perceived territory. If we go paint it out, we send the message that it's not okay, and this is our territory. It will take time and perseverance, but I believe if the effort is kept up, they will tire and move on. We can do it. I just wanted to add, I don’t think threats of bodily harm against the taggers is a good idea. Funny to joke about, but in reality, not good. I like Lane’s idea about trying to organize a more sanctioned graffiti art type of event. This issue should be tackled on multiple levels. There is not just one simple solution as we can attest to from the past 100 comments on this board. So if you see tagging on your street either paint it out or report it to the business that’s been tagged so they can paint it out. The taggers are marking their perceived territory. If we go paint it out, we send the message that it’s not okay, and this is our territory. It will take time and perseverance, but I believe if the effort is kept up, they will tire and move on. We can do it.

]]> By: jon http://obrag.org/?p=8533&cpage=1#comment-18979 jon Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:19:08 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=8533#comment-18979 Shawn, you're coming across as bitter and jaded. Probably the case. But whatever. I'm with Lane and the rest of the folks who want to be part of the solution and not just gripe about dog poo all day. So, we've got a group together for Saturday morning, gallons of paint have already been donated, apparently one of the guys has a sprayer and we will be out on the cliffs at 7am Saturday morning. If you would like to join us, email the Rag for my personal contact info and I can provide more details. We will probably still need extra hands. The more the merrier. It's time to stop talking and get some work done. Peace. Shawn, you’re coming across as bitter and jaded. Probably the case. But whatever. I’m with Lane and the rest of the folks who want to be part of the solution and not just gripe about dog poo all day.

So, we’ve got a group together for Saturday morning, gallons of paint have already been donated, apparently one of the guys has a sprayer and we will be out on the cliffs at 7am Saturday morning. If you would like to join us, email the Rag for my personal contact info and I can provide more details. We will probably still need extra hands. The more the merrier. It’s time to stop talking and get some work done.

Peace.

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