Comments on: Reader Rant: Don’t let them take the fire pits out – you’ll really regret it if you do http://obrag.org/?p=15816 Grassroots and Progressive views on local, national and world news Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:39:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: San Diego Highwayman http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-30109 San Diego Highwayman Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:41:43 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-30109 well now, the fire pits, that give pleasure to many, and are a measure of beach life, are gonna go away due to a lack of money?? BUT there's money available for a pleathora of signs to show us which way is UP?? [ the new tsunami evac route signs ] yup :( well now, the fire pits, that give pleasure to many, and are a measure of beach life, are gonna go away due to a lack of money??

BUT

there’s money available for a pleathora of signs to show us which way is UP??

[ the new tsunami evac route signs ]

yup :(

]]> By: Danny Morales http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29696 Danny Morales Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:53:19 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29696 "Now there's the product of a spun mind! Why not have the the entire "fire hoop" question be turned over to the community that has a vested interest in maintaining bonfires for the O'Bceans? All it's gonna take is someone(s) who have/not the expertise to turn this into a concrete proposal and the resouces to carry that out. Speaking of birds, today is trashed day so methinks I'm 2. (goto> the San Diego City Council kids and tell them for me..."- Haywood Jablomy “Now there’s the product of a spun mind! Why not have the the entire “fire hoop” question be turned over to the community that has a vested interest in maintaining bonfires for the O’Bceans? All it’s gonna take is someone(s) who have/not the expertise to turn this into a concrete proposal and the resouces to carry that out. Speaking of birds, today is trashed day so methinks I’m 2. (goto> the San Diego City Council kids and tell them for me…”- Haywood Jablomy

]]> By: Shawn Conrad http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29690 Shawn Conrad Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:34:09 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29690 What if the fire spinners found a way to sponsor the fire pits. 2 birds 1'm stoned What if the fire spinners found a way to sponsor the fire pits.

2 birds
1′m stoned

]]> By: bodysurferbob http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29677 bodysurferbob Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:39:56 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29677 obbro - i'm sorry your wife has asthma and i'm sorry those construction guys leave junk that gets burned. it's illegal to even burn pallets in the pits. so, it's not legal to burn that other stuff. but people do. check out a comment in the next post about adopting fire pits from chris brewster, former head lifeguard for san diego. he says that before fire pits, people would just set up their own pit and burn wood, then throw sand over the fire, and the sand keeps the heat, and kids burn their feet the next day on the sand. so, even if we let the city take the official fire pits, people will build fires on the beach anyway. i guess you're one of the lucky ones who can enjoy beach culture a block from the beach. that's nice. but think of the bulk of the rest of us who don't live so close. coming to the beach for a fire is a time-honored way of enjoying the beach and life itself. what about all the particulate matter from all the fireplaces in peoples' homes at the beach (and elsewhere). there's many more of them on a cold night burning away than at the beach. obbro – i’m sorry your wife has asthma and i’m sorry those construction guys leave junk that gets burned. it’s illegal to even burn pallets in the pits. so, it’s not legal to burn that other stuff. but people do.

check out a comment in the next post about adopting fire pits from chris brewster, former head lifeguard for san diego. he says that before fire pits, people would just set up their own pit and burn wood, then throw sand over the fire, and the sand keeps the heat, and kids burn their feet the next day on the sand.

so, even if we let the city take the official fire pits, people will build fires on the beach anyway.

i guess you’re one of the lucky ones who can enjoy beach culture a block from the beach. that’s nice. but think of the bulk of the rest of us who don’t live so close. coming to the beach for a fire is a time-honored way of enjoying the beach and life itself.

what about all the particulate matter from all the fireplaces in peoples’ homes at the beach (and elsewhere). there’s many more of them on a cold night burning away than at the beach.

]]> By: Danny Morales http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29658 Danny Morales Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:12:35 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29658 OK Kids, its time for the OBMA to step up. For over 10yrs they've been paying Berts Rentals for the "Police" trailer at the foot of Newport. That money could be better spent in maintaining the <10 (yes, less than ten) fire-pits of the O'Bceans! The OBMA gets community development block grants to maintain the sidewalks, improve the storefronts, water the plants, put in bicycle racks and so on and so forth. Why not take a leadership position vis a vis the rest of the beach communities? Bodysurferbob came up with a good idea that needs the organization, the expertise and the resourses to procede towards implementation. Why not the OBMA? With that in mind, I plan on doing what I can to lobby the City Council to at least leave the door open for community solutions to the budgeting of non- essential services. Peace, Danny p.s. unfortunately, as in the past, too many individuals are focusing on imaginary causes like workers, jamokes, wallnuts, druggies, derelicts and others that frequent our beach town instead of focusing on solutions to problems. (Mose Allison, "Whatever Happened to Real Life?") - d. OK Kids, its time for the OBMA to step up. For over 10yrs they’ve been paying Berts Rentals for the “Police” trailer at the foot of Newport. That money could be better spent in maintaining the <10 (yes, less than ten) fire-pits of the O'Bceans! The OBMA gets community development block grants to maintain the sidewalks, improve the storefronts, water the plants, put in bicycle racks and so on and so forth. Why not take a leadership position vis a vis the rest of the beach communities? Bodysurferbob came up with a good idea that needs the organization, the expertise and the resourses to procede towards implementation. Why not the OBMA?

With that in mind, I plan on doing what I can to lobby the City Council to at least leave the door open for community solutions to the budgeting of non- essential services.

Peace,
Danny

p.s. unfortunately, as in the past, too many individuals are focusing on imaginary causes like workers, jamokes, wallnuts, druggies, derelicts and others that frequent our beach town instead of focusing on solutions to problems. (Mose Allison, "Whatever Happened to Real Life?") – d.

]]> By: obbro http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29653 obbro Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:54:59 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29653 Yes, the smell of burning couches and painted wood emanating from the firepits permeating the entire 1st block between Abbott and the beach and my entire house. I love it. Toxic smoke is good for you and my wife's Asthma. All of the construction waste dumped at the end of my ally because some lazy a-hole won't dispose of it properly and thinks someone will just burn it. Since when does beach culture have to do with burning stuff and ruining the ocean air? All of that particulate matter from the burning settles back on the water as well, contributing to climate change. What's the big deal? Yes, the smell of burning couches and painted wood emanating from the firepits permeating the entire 1st block between Abbott and the beach and my entire house. I love it. Toxic smoke is good for you and my wife’s Asthma. All of the construction waste dumped at the end of my ally because some lazy a-hole won’t dispose of it properly and thinks someone will just burn it. Since when does beach culture have to do with burning stuff and ruining the ocean air? All of that particulate matter from the burning settles back on the water as well, contributing to climate change. What’s the big deal?

]]> By: Sunshine http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29650 Sunshine Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:06:34 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29650 Over me dead body will they take these fire pits! How could I pass up the opportunity to sponsor a pit (more with the help of friends)!!! Wait, what’s this gonna cost? Can I possibly do math at this hour? $173,000 divided by 186 equals $930.11 per pit....did I do that right? How could one little itty bitty pit cost $930 to maintain for a year? Ooooh, more math.....I'm on a roll.... When we break down $930 to a daily rate it comes out to $2.55 per day, per pit. Geeze, I could afford that....how about you? If we buddy up on the cost of a single pit with others, say 5 total, that's only $.51 per day. Sounds like a very reasonable investment for all the enjoyment that the firepits provide all. Whoa, no more math. man. it's way too early in the day for all that brain work.... Bodysurferbob presents a wonderful idea; practical, tangible, do-able, easy breezy. I’m all for it! Got my first $2.55 in hand, where do I sign up? Hey, you with me? As for the two fire pit maintenance workers who would necessarily need to be reassigned (yes, you two, it‘s a time of change and new growth for everyone in this economy), how about creating something greener for them to maintain like Ranger Recyclers, Wind Turbine Troop, or the ever efficient Low Cost Home Solar Panel Installation and Maintenance Team. Yes, yes, I know, new job descriptions call for forward thinking. Mental note to Mayor Sanders…think about how we (the community dwellers as well as your not-so-sparkling reputation) would all benefits from San Diego’s wise use of these environmentally friendly benefits. Hell, Mayor, go ahead and put a political feather in your cap by being sage enough to create such marvelous accomplishments here. Do I hear Federal Funding Grant possibilities in the air? Email the Office of the Mayor if you agree: JerrySanders@sandiego.gov As for me, I’m back to daydreaming now about how delightful our sponsored pit will be once we have the opportunity to adopt & personalize it….ah, OBpossibilities abound! Over me dead body will they take these fire pits! How could I pass up the opportunity to sponsor a pit (more with the help of friends)!!! Wait, what’s this gonna cost? Can I possibly do math at this hour? $173,000 divided by 186 equals $930.11 per pit….did I do that right? How could one little itty bitty pit cost $930 to maintain for a year? Ooooh, more math…..I’m on a roll….

When we break down $930 to a daily rate it comes out to $2.55 per day, per pit. Geeze, I could afford that….how about you? If we buddy up on the cost of a single pit with others, say 5 total, that’s only $.51 per day. Sounds like a very reasonable investment for all the enjoyment that the firepits provide all.

Whoa, no more math. man. it’s way too early in the day for all that brain work….

Bodysurferbob presents a wonderful idea; practical, tangible, do-able, easy breezy. I’m all for it! Got my first $2.55 in hand, where do I sign up? Hey, you with me?

As for the two fire pit maintenance workers who would necessarily need to be reassigned (yes, you two, it‘s a time of change and new growth for everyone in this economy), how about creating something greener for them to maintain like Ranger Recyclers, Wind Turbine Troop, or the ever efficient Low Cost Home Solar Panel Installation and Maintenance Team.

Yes, yes, I know, new job descriptions call for forward thinking. Mental note to Mayor Sanders…think about how we (the community dwellers as well as your not-so-sparkling reputation) would all benefits from San Diego’s wise use of these environmentally friendly benefits. Hell, Mayor, go ahead and put a political feather in your cap by being sage enough to create such marvelous accomplishments here. Do I hear Federal Funding Grant possibilities in the air?

Email the Office of the Mayor if you agree: JerrySanders@sandiego.gov

As for me, I’m back to daydreaming now about how delightful our sponsored pit will be once we have the opportunity to adopt & personalize it….ah, OBpossibilities abound!

]]> By: Danny Morales http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29637 Danny Morales Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:44:15 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29637 Brian, Such opportunities exist in the OB City of Dreams only! Divide by 2 the wage/benefit(healthcare, workers comp., vacation & pension) package and you get: A base salary $43,250 which is about $22hr, Heavy lift & large equipment licenses required, Masonry skills preferred but not a must, Individuals must have passed all pertinent OSHA qualifications for the job and spent X number of years in the Department of Parks and Recreation with a performance rating of ...and so on and so forth! Only an opportunity for the few, the proud...speaking of which my stepdad worked for the Department of Sanitation (D.S.), City of New York. Danny Swartz provided for the wage/benefit package + all you could eat...NOW THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY! I gotta go back to MutantSurfing.com, Danny Brian,

Such opportunities exist in the OB City of Dreams only! Divide by 2 the wage/benefit(healthcare, workers comp., vacation & pension) package and you get: A base salary $43,250 which is about $22hr, Heavy lift & large equipment licenses required, Masonry skills preferred but not a must, Individuals must have passed all pertinent OSHA qualifications for the job and spent X number of years in the Department of Parks and Recreation with a performance rating of …and so on and so forth!

Only an opportunity for the few, the proud…speaking of which my stepdad worked for the Department of Sanitation (D.S.), City of New York. Danny Swartz provided for the wage/benefit package + all you could eat…NOW THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY!

I gotta go back to MutantSurfing.com,
Danny

]]> By: Brian http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29635 Brian Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:04:18 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29635 Wait... wait... there's two people whose full-time job is *just* firepit maintenance? And each of those people have a salary/benefit total of $86.5K? I was a sucker for going to college. Who knew such opportunities existed? Wait… wait… there’s two people whose full-time job is *just* firepit maintenance? And each of those people have a salary/benefit total of $86.5K?

I was a sucker for going to college. Who knew such opportunities existed?

]]> By: Danny Morales http://obrag.org/?p=15816&cpage=1#comment-29633 Danny Morales Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:59:14 +0000 http://obrag.org/?p=15816#comment-29633 Hey Kids! Don't pass up on this opportunity to respond to page one (above the fold) Beacon article regarding the firepits! And while you're broadening the reach of the OB Rag campaign to fund the OB forepits take advantage of the free contacts and agenda there! See ya' on the 14th? Danny Hey Kids!

Don’t pass up on this opportunity to respond to page one (above the fold) Beacon article regarding the firepits!

And while you’re broadening the reach of the OB Rag campaign to fund the OB forepits take advantage of the free contacts and agenda there!

See ya’ on the 14th?

Danny

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